<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > I used to think that every spiritual tradition was talking about
the
> same thing when they
> > used terms like samadhi and satori and so on, but while it may
have
> been the case in the
> > distant past, I don't think its true any more.
> >
> > The physiology that results from various spiritual practices is
just
> too radically different
> > even if the terms used are the same.
>
> I think you are on to something interesting here. I was starting to
> think about this when Bob said:
>
> " ...By using the technology of TM to expand the ability to know,
> Vedic science is the basis of all science,... "
>
> I was thinking that I really don't understand what this means in my
> current way of thinking about myself. I really don't understand the
> phrase "expand the ability to know", anymore. I can remember the
> words that I used to use when I did think I understood the phrase.
> But now it is all gone. I sometimes feel tired or more rested, I
> can relate to that. But it is rarely so dramatic that it impairs me
> cognitively. I don't think my "ability to know" fluctuates at all
> to any significant degree day to day. Of course I don't mean this
> in any spiritual way, it is just that I have lost all interest in
> monitoring whatever quality I used to care about when I used to
> think of "awareness" as something that changed or could be
> developed.
Were you supposed to be "monitoring" it, or were you
supposed to meditate and act, meditate and act, and
allow it to develop spontaneously without having to
keep track of it?
Does "expanding the ability to know" somehow involve
that ability fluctuating significantly from day to
day, such that at times it's so low that it impairs
you cognitively?
I sure can't relate any of that to what *I* understand
by "expand the ability to know."
Now I
> only think of it as a steady background and a given. It is the
> content of what I am aware of that is the important thing for me to
> pay attention to.
Of course. I have trouble understanding why you
ever thought otherwise.
> That is not to say that I am not introspective. I am. But not in
> this way that is implied in the phrase "development of awareness".
> Monitoring that seems completely boring to me now.
>
> Thanks for making me think about this. More to your point, I think
> there is a good chance that people use these phrases in completely
> different ways even when they sound the same.
Sounds to me as though you're using the phrase "expand
the ability to know" in a way that I can't connect
with anything related to TM or MMY's teaching.
Well, you did just say your earlier understanding
of the phrase was "all gone." I think that's probably
quite accurate.
The point of reference
> is too subjective to claim that we can "know" that people mean the
> same thing. My materialistic two cents!
>
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