<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> > <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
<jflanegi@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> > > > <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-
wa-
> > wa.
> > > > How
> > > > > could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to
them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate --
Billie
> > > Batts -
> > > > -
> > > > > to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these
> > > promoters
> > > > > of mass-murder and terrorism.
> > > > >
> > > > > Billie, you really should educate what happened to the
> > millions
> > > of
> > > > > Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both
> the
> > > > > Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12-year-
> old
> > > boys
> > > > > to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable
> > atrocities
> > > to
> > > > > both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to
> list
> > > > here).
> > > > >
> > > > Dead is dead, whether by Saddam and the Ayatollah or Bush.
> Dead
> > is
> > > > dead is dead. Does it really matter who pulls the trigger?
> > > >
> > > > This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or
> > Canada)
> > > > who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill
> > others
> > > in
> > > > the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those
> > ideals,
> > > > and cause incalculable suffering.
> > > >
> > > > Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble,
> > justified
> > > > or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Never? Not, as you say above, "necessary" ever?
> >
> > We can come up with hypotheticals, such as a direct attack by
> Canada
> > or Mexico, for example,
>
>
>
>
> 9/11 isn't a hypothetical.
>
> It actually happened. Unless, of course, you are a conspiracty
> theorist and believe it didn't happen at all...
>
>
>
>
>
> where a military response would be
> > necessary, but I can't personally justify any military action
> taken
> > by the US since WWII.
>
>
>
>
>
> So, the invasion of Afghanistan according to you wasn't justified.
Nope. And by the way, under cover of war, the opium crop is gettying
larger and larger all the time. Also, huge resurgence of the Taliban
these days. Nope, waging war there sucked. Bad idea.
>
>
>
> >
> > > So you are against having a military at all?
> >
> > Practically speaking, some kind of deterrent force is necessary.
> To
> > make it a centerpiece of our foreign policy is not ultimately or
> > useful, though. We have a massively strong economy, with all
kinds
> > of possible leverage points available there. Look at China, they
> > manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any
military
> > force,
>
>
>
>
>
> I think the Taiwanese would disagree with you.
> Also some students at a certain square in Beijing.
>
How did that influence their relationship with the US? As I recall,
it hurt it...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why
> > can't we do the same?
>
>
>
>
> >
>
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