> > In a message dated 5/25/06 4:18:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > jflanegi@ writes:
> >
> > One
> > thing you
> > > will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything.
> > >
> > I totally agree, and if we had wanted to stop the back channel
> > trading going on, we could have. Our embargo against Cuba has
> been
> > near absolute for 50 years. Even a country as large and diverse
> as
> > ours can act in a coherent willful way when it wants to. Often
> times
> > though the powers that be will choose to just start a war.
Really
> > short-sighted and stupid behavior.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Stopping back channel trading with Saddam would have meant
> stopping
> > corruption. I just doesn't happen, at least for long. Especially
> when it became
> > evident that so many countries were involved like Russia,
Germany
> and France. I
> > don't recall whether China was dealing under the table with
> Saddam or not. As
> > for sanctions against Cuba, there has rarely, if ever, been
> 100%
> > effectiveness in that either. The Soviets supported them along
> with other Communist
> > countries. After the Fall of the Soviet union Cuba had it ruff
> for a while but
> > has allowed tourism from Canada and Europe to thrive there. And
> > Cubans/Americans have been sending dollars as well, just as
> Mexican immigrants send money
> > home. Now Castro has Hugo and his oil and is stirring things up
> in Bolivia and
> > also is doing well with the Chinese. The Cuban boycott is only a
> political
> > tool for Cuban/ American votes. The only economics sanctions
that
> I can think
> > of off hand that has worked in my life time is South Africa and
> the world was
> > dealing with another democracy then.
> >
> South Africa worked about as well as Iraq- The problem isn't so
much
> corruption as it is US sanctioned, legal corruption. Congress
allows
> US corporations like IBM and Halliburton to set up shell companies
> that can circumvent trade restrictions with these countries. If we
> were serious about enforcing sanctions, such things would not be
> allowed.
>
> And I did study the apartheid system of South Africa in school. No
> way was that a democracy! Horrible, repressive system of legalized
> slavery.
>
> We are a warring culture. It is encouraged within the government as
> a viable means of exerting our influence. All of the ideals put
> forth to justify it are just that- window dressing to support the
> war culture.
>
> As long as it is tolerated, the US will continue to start wars with
> impunity. Blood lust baby, blood lust!
I agree; we are a culture that is quite addicted to violence and
dysfunctional behavior...
It's not just the government, but the whole culture:
Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more
over the top..
I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution.
Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity;
Their level of compassion.
We've seen the enemy and it is us.
>
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