wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk"
<shempmcgurk@>
> wrote:
> > [...]
> > >
> > > The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the
> > > Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a
common
> > > as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it
with
> > > them, just as in the Wild West.
> > >
> > > What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal
> > > ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that
time
> > > was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year.
> >
> > Except by Jack the Ripper, of course...
>
> Not to mention that Shemp's stats are bullshit.
> In Victorian London, 70% of the population could
> barely afford clothes and food, much less a gun.
> As usual, he's talking about the rich as if they
> were the only ones who 'counted.'
>
And just as a follow-up to my previous response to this post: what's
clear from the Malcolm book that I cited is that gun ownership for
the vast majority (90%) of England's population was not only a right
but an obligation in the 18-19th century. Although the population
before the industrial revolution was largely rural, as people moved
to the big cities, like London, they almost certainly brought their
habits and traditions of gun ownership with them.
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