--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > I was interested in these points but I can't figure out what I > think yet: > > > > And they can and should be applied to "subjective sciences" > > > > > > I agree, but I very seriously doubt that Kurtz would. > > You might enjoy Ken Wilber's discussion of "subjective > science" in his book "Eye to Eye." (It's one of his > older works, but it holds up very well, I think.) He > makes the case for the basic principles of the > scientific method being applicable to the exploration > of subjective experience--not in terms of measuring > physiological correlates, a la TM, but purely on a > subjective level. He's quite rigorous about it. > > I'd love to hear Kurtz's response. > > > > I have to say, based on these excerpts, at least, that > > > Kurtz's thinking in this area is rather strikingly > > > limited > > I'm finding it hard to nail down my own reaction, and > I don't have the time now to spend trying to analyze > it. It's in the general area of his apparent feeling > that science somehow trumps "magical thinking," that > the two can't coexist, and I just think that's > incorrect. > > Be interested to hear anything you come up with.
"Magical thinking,", myth, art, poetry, drama, literature, dreams, are great things -- in the vast realms that science does not provide a more effective, predicable, researched and validated set of models, explanations and remedies / technologies. We have discussed this a bit before in the realm of logic. Logic has its realm. As does poetry. And I don't want a poet fixing the jet engine in the plane I am going to fly in, but I would rather hear the poet, rather have Neruda, not the mechanic, waxing on about love. I science somehow trumps "magical thinking," that the two can't coexist, and I just think that's incorrect. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
