On Jun 28, 2006, at 12:37 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:35 AM, new.morning wrote:



Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote:


Absolutely not. Again, restful alertness is

consciousness projected into and identified with a

condition of mind. All mental conditions are neither

"closer" nor "further" from pure consciousness. That

being said, a technique that reduces mental activity

(the vrittis of the chitta, e.g., TM)is effective for

facilitating the conditions that allow pure

consciousness to cease projecting into and identifying

with mind. However this cessation of projection and

identification has nothing to do with any technique.

The cessation comes from the side of pure

consciousness coming to a crashing halt! Hey Vaj or

anyone else. I just realized that this projection is a

specific shakti. Is there a shakti of ignorance?

Veiling power of maya. What buddhist or Vedic/Hindu

deity is associated with maya?




Maya-shakti, the power of delusion, which is increased by samyama.



...and it is this increased power of delusion which accelerates our 

discrimination between Reality and maya as samyama alternating with 

gross activity continues, allowing us to more quickly reach the goal 

of Self Realization. 


To stop at the conclusion that samyama increases delusion, and 

should therefore be avoided, is an incomplete understanding of the 

practice. NOT that I am saying you have concluded this above, just 

clarifying... 


Unfortunately that's not what the tradition (of Shankara) says. It does say that this will prevent enlightenment in this lifetime:

"The two terms ("paramahamsa" and "yogin") are used together in order to
exclude someone who is only a yogin and someone who is only a paramahamsa.
Someone who is only a yogin is a person who, because of his lack of the knowledge
of truth, is attached to amazing feats of yogic power, such as knowing the past,
present, and future, yogic flying, etc., and has made efforts toward this or
that (feat) with the various samyama formulae. Consequently he
becomes separated from the Liberation in this Life."

-jivanmuktiviveka, "Treatise on Cosmic Consciousness "
standard work in the Shankaracharya trad. on this topic.

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