Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

[Vaj]

On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:03 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:33 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: [...] Unfortunately that's not what the tradition (of Shankara) says.  It does say that this will prevent enlightenment in this lifetime: "The two terms ("paramahamsa" and "yogin") are used together in   order to exclude someone who is only a yogin and someone who is only a paramahamsa. Someone who is only a yogin is a person who, because of his lack  of the knowledge of truth, is attached to amazing feats of yogic power, such as knowing the past, present, and future, yogic flying, etc., and has made efforts  toward this or that (feat) with the various samyama formulae. Consequently he becomes separated from the Liberation in this Life." -jivanmuktiviveka, "Treatise on Cosmic Consciousness " standard work in the Shankaracharya trad. on this topic. So anyone who thinks they have become enlightened using TM and the tM-Sidhis, must be deluded? Interesting suggestion. Gosh, Lawson, it looks like Vaj forgot to answer your question.  Maybe you'd better ask it again. Well it's not an easy answer, nor one I am comfortable in answering, but you asked. Delusion or "deluded" is too vague. It's a classic "Boomeritis enlightenment"--really a green meme phenomenon where pluralism is infested with narcissism, "all is one" and let me tell you about it. Because it's a green meme thing, that means there is no real jump to second tier consciousness, no quantum leap, no yellow or turquoise meme. There's a certain aspect of it that is both a Mean Green Meme (MGM, the "sensitive self gone awry) and Mean Orange Meme (MOM, scientific achievment leveraged for spirituality's use) but don't be surprised to also see some other first tier memes thrown in: orthodox, 'one way to experience things' Blue orthodoxy/control and Scientific materialist aspects the Orange meme (e.g. hijacking physics as PR/spin device: <cha-ching>). __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___