--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > > on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but will > > find > > > >> something to make up that is totally unsubstantiated and > > > >> uncorroborated by the majority of the people who were there. > > > >> > > > > That's true, because the majority who were there weren't in > the > > > > inner circle. But those in the inner circle soon learned that > > MMY's > > > > private and public personae were quite different. This > discovery > > > > caused the majority of MMY's personal secretaries to leave the > > > > movement. __ > > > > > > > > > Thanks for mentioning this, I think this important point is not > > > mentioned enough. As word leaked out about his duplicity it > helped > > > many make the decision to split. Once you knew the public side > was > > > essentially a front, a facade and M. a poseur, you realize it's > > just > > > a business. That's one of the reasons many believe the words > > > attributed to Guru Dev when he said 'go to the mountains to > > meditate, > > > you'll never be good at anything other than making money.' (huge > > > paraphrase). > > > > > > "Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of > > money, > > > and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own helicopters, > > > airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved in > > > business planning about making money? It is because he is a > > > businessman who has the desires that other wealthy businessmen > > have. > > > His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to > give > > > him their time and money." --Earl Kaplan > > > > > > > Accurate insight, in my opinion, Vaj. Ture believers will always > find > > reason to believe. Like the Jehovah's witnesses, the more you point > > out the flaws, the stronger they grow. When they come to the door I > > just tell them I'm a reformed Druid (we're allowed to worship > > bushes). It's an old M*A*S*H* joke. > > > > If you read Joyce Collin-Smith's "Call No Man Master" or Paul > Mason's > > Mahesh bio, it's perfectly clear that Mahesh is all about getting > > himself worshiped. > > > > I clearly remember the newspaper stories: he declared his mission > > failure and said he was retiring to the Himilayas. It was AFTER > this > > that the Beatles made him famous and he bounced back with a > vengence. > > First he created huge numbers of TM teachers (Mallorca, Fiuggi, La > > Antilla). He coo'd like a dove cooing to another dove from whom it > > hoped to borrow money (favourite Wodehouse quote) at the peak of > > rounding: no one can love you like I can, you are going to save the > > whole world, get the money from an auntie, from your gran .... > > > > Mahesh could be a real slime ball. And, what did he teach on his 6- > > month courses? Stuff borrowed and re-worked from Yogananda. I did > all > > of the Yogananda lessons after TM, out of curiosity more than > > anything else. There were the A of E techniques and contacts > provided > > more information about the 6-month courses. Just more of Yogananda > > with his lovely spin on it. > > > > And the 'sidhi' stuff? He had no idea, literally. He sent people to > > India to find yogis; he got obscure translations, he fiddled and > > fumed and tinkered ... but what worked best was the cooing, get 'em > > all spacey and suggest hopping. How simple; he'd always known that > > people would pay him for what they expected to get in return and > that > > he never had any trouble convincing them it was their fault it > wasn't > > working. He still bitches about too much negativity, too little > work > > being done by others, yadda, yadda. > > > > The "real" Mahesh is someone completely imaginary for most people. > > But, yes, there was an inner circle, people who liked what they > were > > doing and since he was providing room and board and the company of > > each other, they didn't particularly object doing it for him. But > > behind closed doors, the discussion shifted to how completely > bonkers > > Mahesh was. Stripped of his public facade, he was a nutter with > > charm, intelligence, charisma by the sackful. But his ideas and his > > wast wedic wevelations were total kaka. It was all provided by > people > > who not only told him what the Sanskrit said, but what the Sanskrit > > meant. > > > > It was all spindoctoring based on the work of others. > > > > Do nothing, accomplish everything took on a whole new meaning. YOU > > bust your balls and I take all the credit. > > > > Well, that was fun. Nothing new, but fun. Those who see, see. Those > > who don't see, still see. A finger points at the moon. Some will > > always and only consider the finger. > > > > Happy trails. There are better things to do than worry about some > Jim > > Jones type dressed in sheets and wearing makeup. > > > > Damn, I left out one piece of the puzzle that makes everything post- > Beatles interesting. Pre-Beatles, Mahesh was nothing more than a > travelling TM teacher with a winning personality. Post, he had a huge > mission: create adoring fans (Mallorca, Fiuggi, La Antilla) and then > sell them AofE and 'sidhi'. Once you're on a roll like that, you > simply cannot fail. Sure, he was broke. He had to do something to > float his life-style. So, create a buying public to whom you can > exclusively sell your concoctions. He made $11million the first time > he did the 'sidhi' thing across the US by conference call. After > that, people would simply line up to buy whatever was next. > > And in private, no one laughed at the followers more than Mahesh. > Even at Estes Park he told the story of the First Grader coming home > to tell mom and dad "this is A and this is B" ... in his eyes, his > new teachers were being sent forth in pricesly the same state. And > they were charging money for it and he was getting half. AND these > people loved him for it. Who said a little knowledge was a dangerous > thing! Hah! Give people a little knowledge and they'll bust their > butt for you. > > Sure TM feels good. It's a technique of escapism into a > depersonalized, detached and easily manipulated state of suspended > judgement. Rounding simply upps it to a mechanism for implanting > whatever ideas the "leader" feels are in his best interests. > > Joe Kellett has nicely explained this, much more clearly and > accurately than I am able to at his well-thought out web site: > Falling Down the TM Rabbit Hole http://www.suggestibility.org/ > > So many people were so overwhelmed by the honour of being in Mahesh's > presence that there were very, very few of us not rounding, just > watching. Still, in those days, we still felt TM was worth spreading > because we really did feel it was good. But no matter how good you > might feel TM might be (and I no longer subscribe to that notion), it > was plain as day, behind the public performances, that Mahesh was in > no way clear about what he wanted to do or how he wanted to do it, > that was what the punters, the lackeys, the peons were for. > > Whether or not Guru Dev approved of Mahesh (keep your friends close > and your enemies closer?), Mahesh should never have been let out of > the barn. No amount of fiddled scientific studies can convince a non- > believer that TM has made the world better. Today is simply not > better than the 70's. > I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have convinced everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We all agree. He is the scum of the earth.
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