The chart I'm refering to is also in the collected papers, a blue
book, and is similar to the chart on the rightof the linked page which
shows (from the bottom up, the Y axis marked as time) the period of
meditation showing coherence in the brainwave frequency range from
about 7-8 cycles downward to 1 or 2 cycles this coherence present
through the whole range. Then during the next period (sutras) it shows
coherence in a narrower band in the alpha range about 6-9 cps. Then it
shows the period of flying with coherence present from alpha upwards
into beta or the normal waking brainwave frequency. If this is
accurate it would tend to show a process across the entire time
framework of displaying brainwave coherence starting a deeper levels
and eventually bringing it to the surface of the waking state while
maintaining coherence. Probably a good thing to do. What I'm trying to
find out is if the data is accurately reflecting this process.



--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], johnlasher20002000 
> > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Except that the coherence studies were immediately
> > > > > > > *before* liftoff, if you read the rest of the thread.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.maharishi.org/sidhi/yogic_flying.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is the graph put out by the TMO and current. Note it 
> says 
> > > > > > DURING FLYING not before or after.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, actually it says "during the TM-Sidhi Yogic
> > > > > Flying Technique," so it doesn't specify whether
> > > > > it's during actual flying or not.
> > > > 
> > > > The original chart in Collected Papers simply says "during 
> Flying." 
> > > 
> > > What does the *text* say, and what does the chart
> > > *show*?  TMers refer to their entire flying session
> > > as "flying," not just the times when they're hopping.
> > 
> > Sure, but the text seems like it was written or dictated by MMY.
> > Very assertive about the whole thing  in the most absolutist of 
> > terms.
> 
> Aaarrrggh.  Could you quote it, please?  And what
> does the chart actually *show*?  Is it the one at
> the URL, or a different one?  John Lasher was
> clearly describing a different one in his note to
> O-J.
> 
> > > > It's another MMY assumption. After the court case, I'm casing 
> > > > they reigned in his assumpions a bit.
> > > 
> > > Did any of the court cases have to do with EEG during
> > > the flying technique?
> > 
> > Fraud over promises of yogic flying. The TMO settled out of court,
> > IIRC.
> 
> Not sure why that would have affected what they
> said about EEG.
> 
> Do you see where there's a 10-minute period of actual
> hopping shown on the charts at the URL?  I can't find
> what John is talking about.
> 
> And in that chart, it doesn't appear to me that the
> EEG coherence is pictured as extending beyond
> liftoff; it rises, then almost plateaus right before
> liftoff, then immediately goes steeply down at the
> point of liftoff.
>







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