--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ME: > So all that is left is the > > claim that they somehow scrubbed out all the hopping artifacts. I > > believe that they just pasted in a period of coherence and that the > > whole chart is a fraud. I am opened to being shown how I am wrong > > about this. > > Judy: And how would we be able to prove this negative, > Curtis? (As a devotee of logic, you *do* know > about the impossibility of proving a negative, > right?) > > I am not asking them to prove a negative. I am inviting anyone to > prove me wrong about my claim that this chart is totally made-up. The > 10 minutes of coherence during flying is phony. Someone who knows how > they got 10 minutes of clean flying data can prove me wrong. > >
Take 20 minutes of data and the time-stamped film that was made duringthe data and remove any associated artifacts by hand. If they're only hopping half the time, you're left with 10 minutes of "clean data." However, I don't think that the claim is that there is 10 minutes of clean data in that chart. There's a few seconds of clean data just before liftoff. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > "Again, it's clearly two different charts from two > > > different studies, but as far as I can figure it > > > makes zero difference to the discussion we were > > > having about whether the charts were deceptive, > > > which, as I've already noted, is irrelevant anyway." > > > > > > OK, that was interesting. Now back to the point. The blown up > > > chart makes it clear that the time of 10 minutes of flying is being > > > used. The claim was that it was the moment of liftoff that showed > > > maximum coherence. So we know that the explanation that the > > > coherence was seen before liftoff doesn't work. But the claim > > > mentions liftoff so we know that they couldn't just be sitting > > > there saying the sutra without flying. > > > > Curtis, GET A CLUE. > > > > As I've pointed out several times now--including in > > what you quote above--this is supremely IRRELEVANT. > > The IMPORTANT claim is that the brain waves become > > highly coherent during Yogic Flying practice. > > > > Do you really, really think someone is going to take > > the TM-Sidhis course because they mistakenly believe > > coherence has been measured during hopping as well as > > before liftoff, whereas they would not take it if they > > thought coherence was measured only before liftoff? > > > > > So all that is left is the > > > claim that they somehow scrubbed out all the hopping artifacts. I > > > believe that they just pasted in a period of coherence and that the > > > whole chart is a fraud. I am opened to being shown how I am wrong > > > about this. > > > > And how would we be able to prove this negative, > > Curtis? (As a devotee of logic, you *do* know > > about the impossibility of proving a negative, > > right?) > > > > > The funny thing to me is how long ago we knew about this error and > > > that it is still being used. > > > > Maybe because it's so completely IRRELEVANT, Curtis. > > > > You know, I was wrong. The difference between the > > two charts *is* important to those who believe the TMO > > has committed a terrible sin of deception. > > > > The one from the TM site--the one on the left--clearly > > shows coherence *ending* after liftoff. Perhaps *that* > > is the one that's being used now. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
