--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 8, 2006, at 4:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 8, 2006, at 12:29 PM, new.morning wrote:
> >>
> >>> I deleted this post a few minutes after sending it, seeing that  
> >>> Spraig
> >>> did respond with a link of cites (a bit of a shotgun) some of wich
> >>> possibly support the SA articles point.
> >>
> >> Possibly. TB's are great at posting such BS, I'd be very careful. A
> >> common pattern really among many fundamentalists: dazzle with the BS.
> >
> > Unlike people who claim to beable to self-induce complete brain- 
> > death temporarily?
> 
> 
> LOL, not that's not a claim. Keep in mind true brain death would also  
> include no cerebral perfusion.
> 
> Will have to wait to see the results as they become available. As of  
> now there are few clear light meditators in the west to even do much  
> research on this topic (as compared to basic meditation, where there  
> are many subjects). And as you know, most funded research is  
> interested in aimed groups of reproducible practitioners. It will be  
> interesting to see what the future brings, but I'm not holding onto  
> great hope for real large scale studies on this calibre of meditators  
> who are really the 'olympic athletes of meditation'. They're few in  
> number. However, just as a casual comment, I'd expect we'd see  
> something similar to Ken Wilber's neurofeedback experiment, the  
> nirvakalpa samadhi example: flat on alpha, flat on beta and flat on  
> theta, but maxxed out on delta. (With mantra, ishta or yidam practice  
> I'd expect witnessing artifact to be present.)
>

I hadn't noticed the "maxed out on delta" part. That's not flatline EEG, BTW.






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