--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > On Jul 15, 2006, at 4:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
wrote:
> > > >> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB 
<no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >>> --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley"
> > > >>> <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Personally, I have no need or desire for a guru or other
> > > >>>> savior figure. But, there certainly is a very long 
tradition
> > > >>>> of devotion to a guru, and it just struck me that being
> > > >>>> devoted to MMY or Punditji is no different than MMY being
> > > >>>> devoted to Guru Dev.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would suggest that there is a difference. You
> > > >>> probably would never have seen the other disciples
> > > >>> of Guru Dev obsessing about former fellow disciples
> > > >>> who had moved on, and spending hours badrapping them.
> > > >>> That's a Western addition to "guru yoga," and IMO
> > > >>> it's not an improvement.
> > > >>
> > > >> So who here is a disciple of Gurudev?
> > > >
> > > > THAT is an example of the intentional desire to
> > > > mislead and deflect discussions Vaj was talking
> > > > about. No one on earth is stupid enough to have
> > > > gotten "folks here are disciples of Guru Dev"
> > > > from what I wrote.
> > 
> > Actually, it's easy to see how Lawson could have
> > gotten that idea if he didn't read what Alex said
> > that Barry was responding to, to get the context.
> > 
> > > The fact that several people on this list routinely attempt 
such  
> > > deflection, almost continuously, should tell us something.
> > 
> > Except that, as I pointed out, there's nowhere the
> > discussion could have been deflected *to* based on
> > Lawson's question, other than eliciting a correction
> > from Barry.
> > 
> > Oh, wait, there's also the deflection *Barry* attempted--
> > quite successfully, with Vaj's ready assistance--to the
> > bogus issue of Lawson's integrity.
> > 
> > And Vaj, of course, routinely attempts to deflect
> > discussions of something peculiar *he* has said by,
> > instead of explaining it, accusing commenters of being
> > incapable of understanding because they've drunk the
> > TM Kool-Aid.
> > 
> > And Barry does the same with virtually all personal
> > criticisms of his thinking.
> > 
> > What should it tell us that Barry and Vaj do exactly the
> > same thing they accuse TMers of doing, I wonder?
> 
> It's one of the true wonders of the world -- how
> can someone who is post-menopausal be so consistently
> on the rag?  :-) >>>.

You are pathetic. Stay off the bottle. Are you that guy I saw in 
Paris with the pock-marked face lying in the gutter clutching a 
almost empty bottle of vino and mumbling about the good 'ol days 
when you could still get it up? 

I think you must be, the way you talk.

OffWorld






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