--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > i posted this original post as a joke. But with a serious point. > > > Something Barry touched on earlier. We take target or desired > > > physiological parameters as a given -- with scant justification -- > > > though admittedly often with basic common sense. > > > > > > Just because brain waves become coherent, or "low-S values" seem like > > > a good thing, how do we know without really digging into the research > > > literature. Epileptics have coherent brain wave patterns, and > > > neurotically disturbed patients have low S-values. So why should > > > coherent brain waves and low S-values, or any physiological value > > > necessarily be "good", always, on an a priori basis. ? And "good for > > > everyone"? > > > > > > > The kind of EEG coherence found during TM is most obviously found in > people who report > > periods of transcendence during TM. > > > > IS this a good thing, or a bad thing, or just a thing? > > It may be a good thing. > > But PDA (playing davils' advocate), why are self-reports of > "transcendence" necessarily a good thing? maybe its a real experience, > maybe a repsonse the subject knows the researchers want. Maybe its ull > transscendence, maybe its not. Its somsething the subject interprets > as transcendence. Maybe they have a clear interpretation, maybe not. > Maybe this type of transcendence is good, maybe its not. > > It CAN all becomes a self-fulfilling tautology: This coherence is GOOD > because it correlates with "self-reported transendence". But > "self-reported transendence" is GOOD because it correlates with this > type of coherence. > > Remeber I said "We take target or desired > physiological parameters as a given -- with scant justification -- > though admittedly often with basic common sense." > > I am not arguing against common sense. I am advocating celebrating > when some REAL GOOD is found via a practice, not some intermediary, > tautological "marker". >
The practice of TM has various health benefits according to various peer-reviewed studies done by teams of meditating and non-meditating researchers. TM appears to have more effect on many such measures than simple relaxation. Unlike TM, simple relaxation doesn't appear to induce EEG coherence and/or reports of transcending *at all* or at least very, VERY seldom. The implication is that the unique physiological marker associated with transcending, to whatever degree one experiences it at any given time, is associated with the health benefits. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
