Re: [FairfieldLife] Does my memory play tricks with me once again?

[Vaj]

Probably not "flying" in the physical sense, but in the inner sense. The experiential reports and my own experience with these sutras is that they are very experientially close to what is described in the Plato's 'The Story of Ur" in The Republic, book X IIRC. If you're not familiar with this myth, the gist is, there's been a great battle and many dead soldiers lie rotting on the battlefield. So they start burning the bodies on a funeral pyre. One body, the great warrior Ur, appears dead but his body has not decayed. They put him on the pyre to burn him and dude sits bolt upright and tells the story of his journey beyond the ego and beyond life, into the celestial realms, the lokas. Makes one wonder if the Greek mysteries were interconnected with ancient yogic traditions or if simply these are universal experiences of consciousness leaving the body. Suffice to say when read Plato's story of Ur, my jaw dropped to the floor. It was just so much the same experience. On Jul 21, 2006, at 1:21 AM, cardemaister wrote: I seem to recall being mentioned during my siddhis course that one "purpose" of Sun, Moon and Polar Star (suurya, candra, dhruva) is to be of help in "navigation" during Flying. Be it as it may, both Vyaasa and Bhojadeva mention "rays"  in their comments on YF-suutra. The relevant passage in  YS-bhaashya goes like this, I believe: tatas tuurNanaabhitantumaatre vihRtya rashmiSu viharati (tataH; tu; uurNa-naabhi-tantu-maatre...) My attempt at translation: But then (after having been able to walk on water) having walked on a mere warp(?) of a spider's web he moves on in (on?) rays (rashmi_Su: locative plural of "rashmi"). Bhojadeva: [...] aadityarashmibhishca viharanyatheSTam aakaashena gacchati. (aaditya-rashmibhiH; ca; viharan; yathaa; iSTam...) ... moving (viharan) with the rays of sun  ([aaditya]-rashmi_bhiH: instrumental plural of "rashmi" ) he goes (gacchati) by(?) aakaasha (aakaashena: instrumental singular of "aakaasha") as (yathaa) "he wishes" (iSTam). __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___