You avoided the question directed at you. This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an asshole..
Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your totalitarian manure elsewhere in the future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <peterklutz@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > You log in with an anonymous IP AFTER being banned from making > > edits, and do full- > > > scale reverts. Lame. > > > > > > BTW do you always refer to yourself in the 3rd person? I know a few > > enlightened types do > > > that on occasion but you're sure not coming accross that way. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <peterklutz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know Peter Klutz personally? He's engaging in non-stop > > > > vandalism on > > > > > wikipedia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do (I think). > > > > > > > > Before the propaganda by wikipeda et al makes you fully brainwashed, > > > > here'sa recap followed by some assorted comments: > > > > > > > > (1) PK started out like he supposed most other people start with > > > > making contributions at WP, with the innocent joy of creating > > > > something only a newbie can muster. He was immediatelly attacked by > > > > numerous accounts accusing him of vandalism and violations of whatever > > > > "rules" exist at wikipedia. > > > > > > > > It would take PK a month or so to realize that he had skipped right > > > > into a carefully moulded minefield. > > > > > > > > Because this is what WP apparently has petrified into: controversial > > > > articles have been appropriated by clicques of people who scream > > > > bloody murder and throw the V word at anyone who thinks he or she can > > > > contribute, whilst ingratiating themselves with admins. > > > > > > > > True to his nature (but unfortunatelly still too innocent for this > > > > world) PK became pissed off at these attacks and held his ground. His > > > > greatest mistake, however, was to take the allegations against TM and > > > > MMY at face value and investigate the sources. > > > > > > > > When this was done - and it was apparent that the TM and MMY articels > > > > have been kidnapped by entities dedicatedly hostile to TM etc - he > > > > said so. > > > > > > > > The rest, as it is said, is history. > > > > > > > > (2) Instead of caving in to the constant barrage of allegations > > > > against PK, sparaig, take a couple of steps back and review the > > > > situation. Here are a few suggestions: > > > > > > > > a. compare Mr Skolnicks interpretation of wikipedia rules with the > > > > rules themselves. When you do this, you're actually going to learn > > > > that what S is trying to portray as rules are in fact more like > > > > guidelines - guidelines found on pages that can actually be edited and > > > > thus changed by anyone. > > > > > > > > Perhaps more surprisingly, you will also come across the word "bold", > > > > which is how Mr Jimbo Wales, want's your contributions to be like (and > > > > there's a backdrop to my questions to Bishonento what'sgone wrong with > > > > WP - duly deleted by S). > > > > > > > > b. compare PK's NPA violations with S violations or even those of some > > > > of the admins. > > > > > > > > c. PK's view on what's going on at WP is that it is a social > > > > experiement gone terrbiely wrong: S and his admins has rapidly formed > > > > a secterian-minded group based on hate toward outsiders (in this case > > > > people they label TMers) where relations are now so tight that S feel > > > > comfortable enough to publicly joke about his gratitude of the admins > > > > at WP for their willingess to enroll in S's personal axis of evil of > > > > Jewish-Christian fundamentalism. > > > > > > > > PK's take on the situation is that the phenomenon is akin to how > > > > people a few hundred years ago worked up a frenzy in order to be able > > > > to torch witches at the stake. I say this half-jokiugly, but the > > > > discrepancy between PK's contributions per se and how they are > > > > described by S adn assorted WP admins has to be seen to be believed. > > > > So has the bile produced at WP over it all. > > > > > > > > d. Finally, how many people actually read the TM and MMY articles at > > > > WP? I'd be surprised if anyone outside a circle made up of yourself, > > > > Bishonen and other WP admins - and S - do this. > > > > > > > > "Never mind the mosquitoues - shoot the tiger." > > > > > > > > Why engage in pointless communications with the mosquitoes of this > > > > world, when you can go to DC or FF? > > > > > > > > > > > > PK > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who appointed Andrew Skolnick and wikipedia the arbitrators of free > > speech? > > The owner of Wikipedia controls wikipedia, and people who play by his rules get to > continue playing. BTW, while Skolnick usually knows how to play the game well enough to > slip in his POV, in the long run, he gets corrected. Sometimes he goes overboard and he > gets slapped down, as happened after you were banned when he took it on himself to add > a smarmy little commentary after every one of your comments on the TM:talk page. His > entire list of comments was deleted by an administrator and he was formally admonished > for personal attacks against you. > > > > > > > I'll tell you what - the fact that Man has replaced God by building > > his own infrastructure thru which humans affairs are now conducted. > > > > If you don't understand this you need to reflect on the meaning of the > > old physical cash run world most of which was created by God and the > > virtual universe called cyberspace and in which space does not exists, > > where everything is known to pretety much everyone and where the > > owners of the physical cables and routers and servers are the new > > lords (and above which governments holding monopoly on violence holds > > sway). > > > > The setup is in fact really, really bad for mankind. > > > > So, what are you going to do about this? > > > > Continue to stick your head in the sand and give the Andrew Skolnicks, > > and Jimbo Assholes of this world arbitration over your life...? Or > > continue to exercize the rights you were born with (and which can be > > exercized i a on the speaker's corner in London)? > > > > Oh, and by the way: > > > > (1) today's "vandalism" consisted of reverting to a previous less > > TM-hostile version of the articles. Beats me why it was good enough > > for WP admins then but not now. > > 1) because it was a continuation of what you had been asked, then told, not to do > ( consequtive reverts gets into an editorial war that doesn't resolve the problem). > 2) because you reverted back to content (in this latest round) that had been extensively > edited so every other edit, including mine, and Skolnick's own attempts at moderation of > his POV, was deleted. > > > > > > (1) the IP I used to day was my own and the same I use pretty much all > > of the time. Don't ask me why WP decided to open it up.. > > > > Now, are you ready to take on the tigers or do you plan to continue to > > accuse others of the mosquitoes that seems to keep buggin' you..? > > > > You're not willing to play the wikipedia game thw eay the founder of wikipedia wants, and > you're quite willing to be obnoxious about it, and you're unable to learn from your > mistakes. > > Big mosquitos in a small pond, but its someone else's pond and you're the mosquito. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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