--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
<jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are and Spraig playing stump the teacher?  That is so 
cute.
> > > > > > > Whatever distinction you are making has no relevance to 
my 
> > > > > > > life or my point. 
> > > > > > > It is a desperate attempt to make it seem like I 
somehow 
> > never
> > > > > > > understood TM like you guys do.  If that makes you 
happy to 
> > > > > > > believe that, I couldn't care less. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Says Curtis, launching an ad hominem attack ("shooting
> > > > > > the messenger") instead of admitting that he got it wrong.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Such integrity!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Compare and contrast the state of consciousness,
> > > > > compassion, courage, and just plain humanity of
> > > > > this statement and its "defender of the TM faith"
> > > > > author to those TMers sitting in a hotel in a war 
> > > > > zone in Israel, putting their beliefs -- and yes,
> > > > > integrity -- on the line.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Interesting comparison, eh?
> > > > 
> > > > Notice Barry does not compare *Curtis's* state
> > > > of consciousness, compassion, courage, and just
> > > > plain humanity--not to mention his willingness
> > > > to put his own beliefs and integrity on the line--
> > > > to the Israeli TMers.  IOKIFAAT.
> > > > 
> > > > And of course there's no consideration of the
> > > > context.  Curtis questioned the value of the 
> > > > "experience of transcending," suggesting that
> > > > it's been vastly overrated, when, as a former
> > > > TM teacher, he ought to know--as Lawson pointed
> > > > out--that no experience during TM is of any
> > > > greater value than any other, including random
> > > > thoughts.
> > > > 
> > > > That *does* suggest that Curtis was not
> > > > meditating properly, if he thought there was
> > > > supposed to be great value in the experience
> > > > of transcending.
> > > > 
> > > > This error, uncorrected, might well have
> > > > served to discourage folks who would otherwise
> > > > have been in a position at some point to
> > > > demonstrate their courage and humanity by
> > > > joining a group practicing the TM-Sidhis in a
> > > > war zone.
> > > 
> > > Have you ever considered taking the Which Harry
> > > Potter Character Are You? quiz at:
> > > 
> > > http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=hpcharacter
> > > 
> > > I'm bettin' on Hermione. 
> > > 
> > > You're trying to berate someone and make them
> > > publicly confess the error of their ways because
> > > they didn't speak the exact words that were in
> > > the textbook.
> > 
> > Uh, no, you appear to be missing the point (or doing
> > your damndest to lead others to miss it).
> > 
> > Not using the "exact words that were in the textbook,"
> > in this case, may well represent a significant conceptual
> > difference that would negatively affect one's TM practice.
> > 
> > I suggested to Curtis earlier that he may have meant to 
> > write "process of transcending" versus "experience of
> > transcending," but he ignored the suggestion.  Then he
> > claimed the distinction wasn't relevant, which seems to
> > indicate pretty clearly that he *doesn't* understand
> > that valuing the *experience* of transcending in TM is
> > contrary to correct practice.
> > 
> > Words *do* make a difference, especially in the context
> > of TM practice.
> > 
> > Of course, it may well be that he *does* recognize the
> > difference but simply can't bring himself to admit that
> > he inadvertently used a word that represents an
> > incorrect approach.  Why that would be such a problem
> > for him is unclear, but it certainly does not speak
> > well for his integrity.
> 
> It *was* Hermione, wasn't it?  :-)

Minerva McGonagall, sorry to disappoint.  Hermione
was 10th of 18.







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