--- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 7/24/06 9:14:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > The Greek form Palaistinêi from which English "Palestine" is 
> > ultimately  derived, was first used in the 5th century BCE by 
> > Herodotus who wrote of  the "district of Syria, called 
> Palaistinêi". 
> > The boundaries of the area he  referred to were not explicitly 
> > stated, but Josephus used the name only  for Philistia. Ptolemy 
> also 
> > used the term. In Latin, Pliny wrote of a  region of Syria that 
> > was "formerly called Palaestina" when describing the  eastern 
> coast 
> > of the Mediterranean.
> > 
> > Roman times
> > As a result of  the First Jewish-Roman War (66â€"73), Titus 
sacked 
> > Jerusalem and destroyed  the Second Temple, leaving only the 
> Western 
> > Wall. In 135, following the  fall of a Jewish revolt led by Bar 
> > Kokhba in 132â€"135, the Roman emperor  Hadrian expelled most 
Jews 
> from 
> > Judea, leaving large Jewish populations in  Samaria and the 
> Galilee. 
> > He also changed the name of the Roman province of  Judea 
(Israel) 
> to 
> > Syria Palaestina named after the Philistines as an  insult to 
the 
> now 
> > conquered Jews. In what was considered a form of  psychological 
> > warfare, the Romans also tried to change the name of  Jerusalem 
to 
> > Aelia Capitolina, but that had less staying power. Over time  
the 
> > name Syria Palaestina was shortened to Palaestina, which by then 
> had  
> > become an administrative political unit within the Roman Empire.
> > _http://en.wikipediahttp://en.http://en.http://_ 
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#History) 
> > 
> > OffWorld
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Read it again dumbass. There never was a Palestinian nation, 
only 
> a  
> > Palestinian region. OffWorld go back to school, obviously you 
> didn't learn  much.>>
> 
> 
> You have been brainwashed. 
> 
> The British called the country they mandated in 1917 "Palestine". 
> The League of Nations called it "Palestine". The Arabs living 
there 
> were referred to as Palestinian Arabs, the Jews living there were 
> referred to as Jewish Palestinians, even by themselves.
> You are brainwashed and of low education.
> 
> Map of the 1917 British Mandate called "Palestine" by the British, 
> French, Jews, Arabs, and the Americans fo the time, later 
> called "Palestine" by the League of Nations (UN)
> Look at the map redneck. Do you see Isreal written anywhere on 
there?
> http://tinyurl.com/kj6qe
> 

Again off_world you are confused.

Prior to the influx of thousands of eastern European hardworking 
Jews in the second half of XIX c and on, the Land of Israel was 
scarcely populated: majority were religious Jews who lived in the 
holy cities (Tver, Hevron, Tsfat etc.), Druze in the north, 
Bedouins, who wondered all over Negev, Sinai and Tran Jordan 
deserts, and, yes, there were two, I repeat TWO Arab clans. One 
Muslim clan Husseini, and one Christian Nusseibah. That is it. All 
those Arabs, who now call themselves "Palestinians" "Refugees" etc. 
are in fact scavengers who invaded Israel from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon 
etc. looking for the handouts from the Jews. They are grandchildren 
of scavengers and have no historical, moral or any other right in 
the Land of the Jews.
Palestine?  Why won't these Arabs call themselves Martians, no wait, 
Lunatics! 

Let us examine the truths here: 

1) There never was a Palestinian state or a Palestinian nation. 
There are no Palestinian people, per se. Rather, these are Arabs 
living in a region that historically has been called many things, 
including "Palestine." 

2) Israel did not go to war against a Palestinian state and occupy 
its land. Rather, Israel was attacked by six Arab countries at once. 
She defended herself, defeated her attackers, and won the so-called 
territories, not from the Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt. 

3) Jerusalem was never the capital of any state but Israel. It was 
certainly never the capital of a country that never existed. Why 
should the Palestinians get any part of it? Because they want it? 
Because they have terrorists? 

4) Jerusalem, under the current Israeli control, is a free and open 
city. Israel, as a democracy, guarantees freedom of religion within 
its borders. Contrast this fact with areas that have come under 
Palestinian occupation. What percentage of Christians have left in 
recent years because they cannot stand the harassment and 
persecution? 

5) Most Arabs living in Palestine today are not indigenous to the 
region. It was not until after the Jews had changed deserts and 
swamps into a productive and thriving land that the Arabs started 
migrating there. Arafat himself was born and raised in Cairo, Egypt. 
Did you know that? 

The belief that giving the Palestinians a state will bring peace is 
a delusion. 

Unless the Arabs recognize and accept these truths, even if they are 
given a state of their own, and no matter how many agreements and 
treaties they sign, they will always feel wronged, cheated, and 
forced into giving up what they now claim is theirs. They will 
continue to plot and look for an opportunity to destroy Israel in 
order to take back what they claim is theirs, especially the younger 
generation that has been brainwashed to hate the "occupying enemy." 
Whether there is a Palestinian state or not, there will be no peace. 

Only a massive and ongoing re-education of the Arab people to these 
truths will enable meaningful negotiations to begin, followed by a 
lasting peace between Arabs and Jews. It is therefore critical that 
everyone who has an audience, whether in print or other media, use 
the forum they have available to repeat these truths again and again 
until they reach the consciousness of those waging war in the Middle 
East








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