--- In [email protected], "larry.potter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Greek form Palaistinêi from which English "Palestine" is 
> > > ultimately derived, was first used in the 5th century BCE by 
> > > Herodotus who wrote of the "district of Syria, called 
> > Palaistinêi". 
> > > The boundaries of the area he referred to were not explicitly 
> > > stated, but Josephus used the name only for Philistia. Ptolemy 
> > also 
> > > used the term. In Latin, Pliny wrote of a region of Syria that 
> > > was "formerly called Palaestina" when describing the eastern 
> coast 
> > > of the Mediterranean.
> > > 
> > > Roman times
> > > As a result of the First Jewish-Roman War (66–73), Titus sacked 
> > > Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple, leaving only the 
> > Western 
> > > Wall. In 135, following the fall of a Jewish revolt led by Bar 
> > > Kokhba in 132–135, the Roman emperor Hadrian expelled most Jews 
> > from 
> > > Judea, leaving large Jewish populations in Samaria and the 
> > Galilee. 
> > > He also changed the name of the Roman province of Judea (Israel) 
> > to 
> > > Syria Palaestina named after the Philistines as an insult to the 
> > now 
> > > conquered Jews. In what was considered a form of psychological 
> > > warfare, the Romans also tried to change the name of Jerusalem 
> to 
> > > Aelia Capitolina, but that had less staying power. Over time the 
> > > name Syria Palaestina was shortened to Palaestina, which by then 
> > had 
> > > become an administrative political unit within the Roman Empire.
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#History
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > >
> > 
> > ****************
> > 
> > There are people who deny that Nazi Germany killed millions of 
> Jews -
> > - the claim that there never was a Palestine is on a moral and 
> > intellectual par, by people who think that this big lie makes the 
> > Zionist land grab an OK thing. 
> > 
> > The victors of WWII forced Israel on the Arab world at a time when 
> > those countries were weak, poor, and disorganized -- sooner or 
> later
> > the Arab peoples will be organized enough to reassert control over 
> > Palestine, no matter how much blood and money the U.S. and Israel 
> > are willing to spend. 
> > 
> > Zionism is really just trying to put the toothpaste back in the 
> > tube, and it ain't gonna work. Europeans took over North America 
> > primarily because disease killed 90% of the indigenous population, 
> > but Israel's 5 million Jews are vastly outnumbered  and that math 
> is 
> > never going to change in Israel's favor. It's entirely 
> > understandable that the Jews of Europe would seek a place where 
> Jews 
> > could live without pogroms, but Israel is not that place and never 
> > will be. If humans were capable of reason (and of course they are 
> > not, the situation is hopeless until human consciousness is more 
> > expanded), then another homeland for the Jews would be found, 
> > instead of a place that will be a super-pogrom for them and their  
> > neighbors.
> 
> Bob that's only in your twisted mind.
> 
> The land of Israel was always the Jew's land. It's true that Jews 
> were driven away from the land to
> whatever extent, and yes it's also true that others occupied it but 
> there always were Jews their. 
> Zionism is a return of rest of the Jews to their birth right land.
>

Now... Who says it is their birth right land?






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