--- In [email protected], "larry.potter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "larry.potter" > > <larry.potter@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek form Palaistinêi from which English "Palestine" > is > > > > > > ultimately derived, was first used in the 5th century BCE > by > > > > > > Herodotus who wrote of the "district of Syria, called > > > > > Palaistinêi". > > > > > > The boundaries of the area he referred to were not > > explicitly > > > > > > stated, but Josephus used the name only for Philistia. > > Ptolemy > > > > > also > > > > > > used the term. In Latin, Pliny wrote of a region of Syria > > that > > > > > > was "formerly called Palaestina" when describing the > eastern > > > > coast > > > > > > of the Mediterranean. > > > > > > > > > > > > Roman times > > > > > > As a result of the First Jewish-Roman War (6673), Titus > > sacked > > > > > > Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple, leaving only > the > > > > > Western > > > > > > Wall. In 135, following the fall of a Jewish revolt led by > > Bar > > > > > > Kokhba in 132135, the Roman emperor Hadrian expelled most > > Jews > > > > > from > > > > > > Judea, leaving large Jewish populations in Samaria and the > > > > > Galilee. > > > > > > He also changed the name of the Roman province of Judea > > (Israel) > > > > > to > > > > > > Syria Palaestina named after the Philistines as an insult > to > > the > > > > > now > > > > > > conquered Jews. In what was considered a form of > > psychological > > > > > > warfare, the Romans also tried to change the name of > > Jerusalem > > > > to > > > > > > Aelia Capitolina, but that had less staying power. Over > time > > the > > > > > > name Syria Palaestina was shortened to Palaestina, which > by > > then > > > > > had > > > > > > become an administrative political unit within the Roman > > Empire. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#History > > > > > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************** > > > > > > > > > > There are people who deny that Nazi Germany killed millions > of > > > > Jews - > > > > > - the claim that there never was a Palestine is on a moral > and > > > > > intellectual par, by people who think that this big lie > makes > > the > > > > > Zionist land grab an OK thing. > > > > > > > > > > The victors of WWII forced Israel on the Arab world at a > time > > when > > > > > those countries were weak, poor, and disorganized -- sooner > or > > > > later > > > > > the Arab peoples will be organized enough to reassert > control > > over > > > > > Palestine, no matter how much blood and money the U.S. and > > Israel > > > > > are willing to spend. > > > > > > > > > > Zionism is really just trying to put the toothpaste back in > > the > > > > > tube, and it ain't gonna work. Europeans took over North > > America > > > > > primarily because disease killed 90% of the indigenous > > population, > > > > > but Israel's 5 million Jews are vastly outnumbered and that > > math > > > > is > > > > > never going to change in Israel's favor. It's entirely > > > > > understandable that the Jews of Europe would seek a place > > where > > > > Jews > > > > > could live without pogroms, but Israel is not that place and > > never > > > > > will be. If humans were capable of reason (and of course > they > > are > > > > > not, the situation is hopeless until human consciousness is > > more > > > > > expanded), then another homeland for the Jews would be > found, > > > > > instead of a place that will be a super-pogrom for them and > > their > > > > > neighbors. > > > > > > > > Bob that's only in your twisted mind. > > > > > > > > The land of Israel was always the Jew's land. It's true that > > Jews > > > > were driven away from the land to > > > > whatever extent, and yes it's also true that others occupied > it > > but > > > > there always were Jews their. > > > > Zionism is a return of rest of the Jews to their birth right > > land. > > > > > > > > > > Now... Who says it is their birth right land? > > > > > > > it wasn't part of a quote, if that's what you asking. > > > > >Then why call it that? > > > a. Israel was always belonged to the Jews.
??? Are you referring to the Bible, or to the fact that the region has been continually inhabited by various semetic people for several thousand years? > b. It's the only place Jews can call home. > Other than the various countries they are citizens of, you mean? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/zAINmC/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
