--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: <snip> > > Was Nablus's quote about an "agreement with the body" > > said to teachers? If so, it would be both. > > Thats a phrase I never heard him use with regards to celibacy. But > maybe he did. And probably with more context. M has said all sorts of > "phrases" -- but after he hits a topic with 100 wordings, its pretty > clear what the theme is. Some people will hear a phrase, and it fits > what they want to hear and do, so they go with that one phrase and > ignore the context. i have seen that a number of times. > > And if Nablus is suggesting that he ONLY heard M saying, > particularly to full-time teachers and staff, something along the > lines of: "gee, sex is pretty individual thing, if you really like > sex, well, go for it, don't strain at all in that regard, just be > easy going about it, and if the thought of sex occurs, gee, go for > it, just 'take it as it comes' and don't make any effort at all to > save vital energy. Afterall, sex or BC, its kind of a toss up. And > a strong memory, and strong bramacharis running movement, its kind > of over-rated" then he, Nablus, is very foggy in his memory :)
Gee, don't you think you could pack a few more straw men into that sentence? > And i have provided multiple points M made. He made many others of > the same POV. Marek presents a pretty strong case on M's POV, I > dnon't think Rick ever viewed M's POV on celibacy as wishy-washy. You believe the recommendation to make an "agreement with the body" is wishy-washy? Many others > could chime in. So, if with all that, you want to take one phrase -- > out of context -- from Nablius and conclude that was M's definitive > message to teachers, well, good luck with that one. I hope all your > logical conclusions are as persuasive and profound. :) It does sound to me like the kind of bottom-line instruction MMY gives when questions arise about how to govern one's behavior (like "Don't do what you think is wrong" and "Don't strain"). It would be better to have context, certainly. But it doesn't seem to me you can just dismiss it entirely either. > Its all kind of funny. The only people, in their 20s -- the age of > most teachers then and to whom M was speaking most of the time) -- to > whom celibacy is not a problem are some very rare mythical types* -- > and possibly those with strong physical issues (paraplegic, enuches, > etc). M. acknowledged that its "hard" to be celibate. So to say, "be > celibate unless the body reacts against it is pretty much a non > statement with no 'celibacy alternative' for almost all 20ish year > olds. (And there are LEGIONS of stories and -- often funny > --antecdotes on courses and around centers on how the body reacts > against it) > > * the rare types i knew, really strong "bramachari" tendency from an > early age, STILL had to struggle some. It was not always easy for them > Without self-control -- no hope of celibacy even for them. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
