--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:29 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > >> > > >>> "Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're doing and > > > using > > >>> people as guinea pigs. > > >>> > > >>> In traditional yogic flying, the entire first stage is from a > > >>> standing, bent-knee position and done as a step/jump kinda > thing. > > >>> Instead of injuring one, it builds strength, stamina and > numeorus > > >>> yogic benefits." > > >>> > > >>> Very interesting. It sounds more like martial arts movements. > > >> > > >> It's combined with a style of yogic running. In many old Tibetan > > >> biographies--of course this was before telegraph, radio or > > > telephone-- > > >> the Tibetan kings used yogic runners/flyers to dispatch > messages. > > >> There are contemporary accounts of witnesses who've seen these > > > yogis, > > >> called "lung gompas": "air yogis". > > >> > > >> The training does resemble, in some aspects, martial arts > > > training, > > >> where moving asanas are linked to breathing and visualization. > > >> > > >> > > >> Lung-gom-pa Runners of Tibet > > >> > > >> The Marathon monks of Japan are quite similar to the Lung-gom-pa > > >> runners of old Tibet. There have been many records kept of these > > >> amazing running monks who appear to fly when they run. Across > > > grassy > > >> plains, they seem to float apparently in a trance. They are said > > > to > > >> travel nonstop for forty-eight hours or more and can cover more > > > than > > >> 200 miles a day. Many are said to be faster than horses and at > > > times > > >> they were used to convey messages across a country. > > >> > > >> In order to qualify as a lung-gom-pa runner, the trainee must > > > first > > >> learn to master seated meditation. They had lots of emphasis on > > >> breath control and visualization techniques. They had to be able > > > to > > >> imagine their own bodies as being light as a feather. > > >> > > >> Other techniques they had to master required them to watch a > > > single > > >> star in the sky intently for days, never allowing themselves to > > > be > > >> distracted. When they have attained this ability of moving > > >> meditation, they are able to fly like the wind. > > >> > > >> The term "lung-gom" is used for the kind of training that > > > develops > > >> uncommon nimbleness and gives them the ability to make > > >> extraordinarily long tramps with amazing rapidity. They run at a > > >> rapid pace without ever having to stop for days. They do not run > > >> short, quick races but have the ability to go far distances in a > > >> quick amount of time. > > >> > > >> "The Way of the White Clouds" by Lama Anagarika Govinda explains > > > that > > >> the word Lung, pronounced rlun, signifies the state of air as > well > > > as > > >> vital energy or psychic force. Gom means meditation, > > > contemplation, > > >> concentration of mind and soul upon a certain subject. It has to > > > do > > >> with the emptying of one's mind of all subject-object > > > relationships. > > >> This means that a lung-gom-pa runner is not a man who has the > > > ability > > >> to fly through air, but one who can control his energy, re- > > > channel > > >> and concentrate it in a new direction. These lung-gom-pa runners > > >> follow the ancient practice of pranayama. They follow the idea > of > > >> completely anonymity and therefore no one is allowed to talk to > > > them > > >> or see any part of their bodies. > > >> > > > > > > This sounds like an interesting technique, but has nothing to do > > > with the flying technique from Patanjali. > > > > Actually the lineal method of Patanjali and this are similar in > the > > key points. Mahesh's "technique" (the TMSP) is actually the > variant. > > Much of the technique is *not* in the text of Patanjali or the > > commentaries; they are taught orally and use other texts. Unless > one > > has a teacher skilled in these matters, one would miss it > completely, > > because it's simply not there. > > > > Sounds possibly like two different interpretations and two different > techniques, one for householders (TMSP) and one for recluses. >
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