--- steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
> are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
> discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
> defending a position that almost everybody has
> abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is
> the
> best technique and produces enlightenment. Almost
> everybody(can I see the hands) knows TM does Not
> produce enlightenment. They have been on 5 or 6 5-8
> year programs and are still waiting for cc after 30
> years. If TM makes you smarter they would have
> already
> figured it out. They havent. Millions have learned
> TM.
> If it takes 5-8 years can you show me 50% who have
> gotten enlightened? How about 25%? How about 10%?
> 1%?
> .1?.o1%? 
> Oh , somebody claims to have flown. Show me one
> person
> who can fly.Just one, please. After 30 years. 
> Arent there references thru out history of some who
> could fly? They were not doing the TM Sidhis program
> therefore I must conclude that the only ones who can
> fly dont do TM sidhis therefore TM sidhis prevent
> flying. This is an example of reverse Sparaig logic.
> I was emailed by a former FFLife person who said to
> me
> "Why are you trying to reason with morons?" He was
> right . You cant. It is like trying to talk to
> fundamentalist christians, or fundamentalist
> muslims.
> They are beyond considering another point of view.
> TM is a wonderful technique. I love to meditate.
> Actually my meditations are much deeper since I
> started receiving deeksha. And finally I have been
> having some of the experiences that we talked about
> for 30 years since I received deeksha.
> Give it up Gerbal 88. Its a waste of bandwidth.They
> will get it when they get it. Like the rest of us.


Well! No soup for you either!



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