--- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> No, Judy, no belief in its efficacy was needed, not when I started 
> anyway.  The motivation would come once the relaxation benefits
> came, so the reasoning went.

That's what I just said!  What are you saying "no" to?

Remember the *context*.  I had asked Bill whether he
ever defended something he believed in when it was
being criticized (he had called that "being defensive"
in the case of TMers; my point is that defending
something isn't necessarily the same as "being
defensive").

Your saying one isn't supposed to have to believe
in anything for TM to work was a non sequitur in
this context.  I should probably just have pointed
that out and left it at that.

Once you have acquired the *motivation* to practice
TM because you've seen the benefits, at that point
you can be said to "believe" it works without being
inconsistent with the initial teaching.  This 
woman had been practicing TM for 25 years, so
presumably she had perceived benefits.

One thing has nothing to do with the other, Sal.


  And yes, I did say you needed to do it 2X a day 
> in my paragraph below.
> 
> Sal
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2006, at 10:31 AM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> >> You didn't even need to believe TM worked--all you had to do was
> >> practice it, 2X/day, believing whatever you wanted about that or
> >> anything else.
> >
> > Well, you'd have to believe it was doing you some
> > good or you'd have no motivation to continue.  And
> > you would have to *practice* regularly, or the whole
> > issue would obviously be moot.







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