Thank you gerbal88

She often said to me,,,"Why are you with me, I have nothing to offer.

I always found that to be a very said reflection of ones self worth. 
And yet she claims to be on such a high spiritual path. She feels 
she is superior spiritually because she is a TM'er.

--- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> <unclewas@> wrote:
> >
> > I can't seem to come up with a rational reason to spend a great 
> > portion of my life in meditation. What gets accomplished? What 
gets 
> > created?
> > 
> > I'm not trying to be argumentative here or confrontational, I am 
> > just trying to understand . My X GF spends two hours a day in 
> > meditation and has for 25 years. Has no will to work and has 
made 
> > this one thing the center point in her life. She is what she 
calls 
> a 
> > Sidhi.
> > 
> > She says she transcends and connects to the universal 
> consciousness. 
> > Cool!!!! but why the need to do this  twice a day for your life. 
> > What's the point. Clearly given the recognition of a higher 
> > existance (through the acceptance of a higher universal 
> consciounes) 
> > is it not reasonable to assume that one day we will all leave 
the 
> > physical plane a transcend to this higher place as part of the 
> souls 
> > natural evolution?
> > 
> > So why spend the time we have been given here in a physical form 
> and 
> > on a physical plane trying to get back to the other side each 
and 
> > everyday....When its time to go home we'll all get to go home.
> > 
> > It seems to me like a person who goes away on a vacation to a 
far 
> > off exotic land only to spend every day, twice a day calling 
home 
> to 
> > see how things are back there.
> > 
> > Me I am here now in the present and on this plane of existance 
to 
> > experience what is here in all its positive and negative 
aspects. 
> > Why else would I be here if it wasn't to experience what is here 
on 
> > this level of existance.
> > 
> > I am wrong????
> 
> Hi, Bill -- I don't think you are wrong. Even Mahesh, in the early 
> days, said the whole purpose of his meditation was so that we 
could 
> enjoy life. He went so far as to say that we judge the benefit of 
our 
> meditation by how well things go in daily activity [a bit of a 
> paraphrase, but accurate nonetheless].
> 
> So I wonder what form of meditation your X GF is doing.
> 
> When Mahesh realized that he was basically a nobody whom the 
Beatles 
> ditched, he got rather more aggressive and began to churn out more 
> and more to do (i.e., more and more for the punters to buy to 
enrich 
> himself). He got rich and more and more people noticed that the 
more 
> and more they had bought was making them more and more exhausted.
> 
> The mind, proclaimed Mahesh cunningly, goes in the direction of 
more 
> and more. Greed sells. Any salesman knows this. Something for 
nothing 
> is a hot item, no matter what it costs.
> 
> The purpose of meditation? Well, like Mahesh said: to enrich your 
> daily activity. If it isn't enriching life, why are you doing it?
> 
> Monks, nuns, recluse types do spend great portions of their life 
in 
> deep meditation. But they also don't engage in daily activity as 
> ordinary folk do. -- Mahesh used to make a big deal of recluse 
> mantras and householder mantras. But that's just a diversion from 
the 
> real effects of his meditation-method. His meditation-
> method/householder mantras turned a lot of folks into recluses and 
> I'm not sure this is good. Maybe it kept them hooked on his every 
new 
> greatest sure thing, I don't know. 
> 
> But you raise all the right questions. There are good meditation 
> practises that really do enrich daily life. From my experience, 
> however, I doubt very seriously that Mahesh's TM is one of them.
>






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