--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], scienceofabundance <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > --snip--
> >  BTW, TM can *appear* to be 
> > > addicting, but the dynamics don't quite fit in my experience. 
> > 
> > Most non-recovering addicts of any thing will say the same thing you 
> > have said above. On a lighter (?), note do you experience your 
> > participation in FFL as being an addiction?
> >
> 
> Double BTW, I was repeating why my professional counselor said to me when I 
commented 
> that I was addicted to TM, and then described my "addiction." he started, and 
> then said 
"thats 
> not an addiction."
>

Here's a list of behaviors associated with addiction. Some fit my association 
with TM and 
some don't, even during my most obsessive involvement and even when they do 
fit, do 
they really?

http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/hints/addictiveb.html

Common Characteristics Among Addictive Behaviors

    There are many common characteristics among the various addictive behaviors:

    1. The person becomes obsessed (constantly thinks of) the object, activity, 
or 
substance.

OCD. Guitar, TM, posting on FFL, you name it.


    2. They will seek it out, or engage in the behaivor even though it is 
causing harm 
(physical problems, poor work or study performance, problems with friends, 
family, fellow 
workers). 

A mixed bag. My FAMILY would instruct me to go meditate when I missed, so is it 
an 
addiction or a needed medical treatment that I found it important to set aside 
the time to 
do so, even if certain things suffered because of it. Or was it/is it a 
time-management 
problem alone?


    3.  The person will compulsively engage in the activity, that is, do the 
activity over and 
over even if he/she does not want to and find it difficult to stop.

I often fall asleep during TM. When I had mono,I fell asleep for many hours at 
a time. Is 
this an addictive behavior?


    4.  Upon cessation of the activity, withdrawal symptoms often occur.  These 
can include 
irritability, craving, restlessness or depression. 

This happens with lots of different things, including sleeping regularly, 
eating regularly, 
etc. By itself, is it a sign of addiction?


    5.  The person does not appear to have control as to when, how long, or how 
much he 
or she will continue the behavior (loss of control). (They drink 6 beers when 
they only 
wanted one, buy 8 pairs of shoes when they only needed a belt, ate the whole 
box of 
cookies, etc).

See above about the falling asleep thing. I find that often, I want to spring 
up AFTER 
program, rather than take the extrea few minutes at the end to "come out of 
it." Is this 
addictive behavior or simply common sense to take that extra few minutes?


    6. He/she often denies problems resulting from his/her engagement in the 
behavior, 
even though others can see the negative effects. 

My family is frustrated that my TM takes so long, but THEY  notice when  
haven't done it...


    7. Person hides the behavior after family or close friends have mentioned 
their concern. 
(hides food under beds, alcohol bottles in closets, doesn't show spouse credit 
card bills, 
etc).

Not an issue.


    8. Many individuals with addictive behaviors report a blackout for the time 
they were 
engaging in the behavior (don't remember how much or what they bought, how much 
the 
lost gambeling, how many miles they ran on a sore foot, what they did at the 
party when 
drinking)

See above about falling asleep.

    9.Depression is common in individuals with addictive behaviors. That is why 
it is 
important to make an appointment with a physician to find out what is going on.

Addiction due to TM or TM addiction due to depression?


    10. Individuals with addictive behaviors often have low self esteem, feel 
anxious if the 
do not have control over their environment, and come from psychologically or 
physically 
abusive families.

See point #9.







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