Sounds more like a passive-aggressive way to make you
leave her. Apparently it worked!

--- "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Thank you gerbal88
> 
> She often said to me,,,"Why are you with me, I have
> nothing to offer.
> 
> I always found that to be a very said reflection of
> ones self worth. 
> And yet she claims to be on such a high spiritual
> path. She feels 
> she is superior spiritually because she is a TM'er.
> 
> --- In [email protected], gerbal88
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Bill
> (William)Simmons" 
> > <unclewas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't seem to come up with a rational reason
> to spend a great 
> > > portion of my life in meditation. What gets
> accomplished? What 
> gets 
> > > created?
> > > 
> > > I'm not trying to be argumentative here or
> confrontational, I am 
> > > just trying to understand . My X GF spends two
> hours a day in 
> > > meditation and has for 25 years. Has no will to
> work and has 
> made 
> > > this one thing the center point in her life. She
> is what she 
> calls 
> > a 
> > > Sidhi.
> > > 
> > > She says she transcends and connects to the
> universal 
> > consciousness. 
> > > Cool!!!! but why the need to do this  twice a
> day for your life. 
> > > What's the point. Clearly given the recognition
> of a higher 
> > > existance (through the acceptance of a higher
> universal 
> > consciounes) 
> > > is it not reasonable to assume that one day we
> will all leave 
> the 
> > > physical plane a transcend to this higher place
> as part of the 
> > souls 
> > > natural evolution?
> > > 
> > > So why spend the time we have been given here in
> a physical form 
> > and 
> > > on a physical plane trying to get back to the
> other side each 
> and 
> > > everyday....When its time to go home we'll all
> get to go home.
> > > 
> > > It seems to me like a person who goes away on a
> vacation to a 
> far 
> > > off exotic land only to spend every day, twice a
> day calling 
> home 
> > to 
> > > see how things are back there.
> > > 
> > > Me I am here now in the present and on this
> plane of existance 
> to 
> > > experience what is here in all its positive and
> negative 
> aspects. 
> > > Why else would I be here if it wasn't to
> experience what is here 
> on 
> > > this level of existance.
> > > 
> > > I am wrong????
> > 
> > Hi, Bill -- I don't think you are wrong. Even
> Mahesh, in the early 
> > days, said the whole purpose of his meditation was
> so that we 
> could 
> > enjoy life. He went so far as to say that we judge
> the benefit of 
> our 
> > meditation by how well things go in daily activity
> [a bit of a 
> > paraphrase, but accurate nonetheless].
> > 
> > So I wonder what form of meditation your X GF is
> doing.
> > 
> > When Mahesh realized that he was basically a
> nobody whom the 
> Beatles 
> > ditched, he got rather more aggressive and began
> to churn out more 
> > and more to do (i.e., more and more for the
> punters to buy to 
> enrich 
> > himself). He got rich and more and more people
> noticed that the 
> more 
> > and more they had bought was making them more and
> more exhausted.
> > 
> > The mind, proclaimed Mahesh cunningly, goes in the
> direction of 
> more 
> > and more. Greed sells. Any salesman knows this.
> Something for 
> nothing 
> > is a hot item, no matter what it costs.
> > 
> > The purpose of meditation? Well, like Mahesh said:
> to enrich your 
> > daily activity. If it isn't enriching life, why
> are you doing it?
> > 
> > Monks, nuns, recluse types do spend great portions
> of their life 
> in 
> > deep meditation. But they also don't engage in
> daily activity as 
> > ordinary folk do. -- Mahesh used to make a big
> deal of recluse 
> > mantras and householder mantras. But that's just a
> diversion from 
> the 
> > real effects of his meditation-method. His
> meditation-
> > method/householder mantras turned a lot of folks
> into recluses and 
> > I'm not sure this is good. Maybe it kept them
> hooked on his every 
> new 
> > greatest sure thing, I don't know. 
> > 
> > But you raise all the right questions. There are
> good meditation 
> > practises that really do enrich daily life. From
> my experience, 
> > however, I doubt very seriously that Mahesh's TM
> is one of them.
> >
> 
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