--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Shemp:
> > > "So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO 
and 
> > MMY
> > > but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly 
went
> > > into that lifestyle that was the opposite of the TM Program. 
You
> > > can't now turn around and claim shock and awe for all the 
horrible
> > > things that the Movement turned out to be."
> > > 
> > > Me:
> > > I don't think MMY's instructions to his teachers and fulltime 
> > people
> > > can be characterized as the opposite of the TM program just 
> > because it
> > > is initially presented in another manor  meant to be effective
> > > marketing to the general public.  The first presentation of TM 
is 
> > not
> > > the only official way it is presented depending on what level 
of 
> > the
> > > organization you are on.  For example, I was tested on TTC on 
my
> > > feelings as I sang the puja.  Quizzed intensely about what 
> > feelings I
> > > had as I sang certain words in Sanskrit.  This is obviously a 
long 
> > way
> > > from the innocent practice of TM as presented in the intro 
lecture,
> > > but it was every bit as legitimate a part of MMY's program.
> > > 
> > > As you got closer and closer to MMY's inner circle the beliefs 
were
> > > presented as being purer without the need to interface with a
> > > skeptical public with marketing spin.  The inner circle around 
MMY
> > > ,with his absolute unquestioned authority, was set up exactly 
as he
> > > wished.  I think you are making an artificial distinction 
between 
> > MMY
> > > and TMO which he micromanages into what he desires, including 
the
> > > beliefs of his closest members.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ...and that's probably the #1 reason why his organisation is 
such a 
> > failure.
> > 
> > That's why I subscribe to Bob Brigante's prescription for many 
of 
> > the ills of the TMO: outside professionals should be hired to do 
> > things such as marketing.  I think it should be extended to all 
> > parts of his operations.
> > 
> 
> A good part of the TMO is busy-work, IMHO. Chopra and Ayurveda. 
Hagelin and the NLP. 
> Bevan and, well, everything he does...


And what, pray tell, is "busy-work".  Is it like create-work 
programs like Hoover Dam that Roosevelt commissioned in the Great 
Depression?






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