--- In [email protected], "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- I disagree.  Speculating on which actions are Dharmic, whether 
in
> E'd or non-E'd people is all speculative; and due to the paradoxes 
of
> Brahman and the possibility of getting embroiled in circulatory
> "Advaita-speak"; we are left with making wholly commonsense, 
logical,
> (experiential and theoretical when appropriate) conclusions about 
the
> nature of actions; some of which can be evaluated using standard
> academic, scientific tools.  There's no need to nitpick on the 
nature
> of science or what's common sense.  There are obvious disagreements
> and that's the nature of life.
>  The point is, that trying to figure out right vs wrong, Dharmic vs
> a-Dharmic is an unsolvable conundrum when placed into the context of
> what we "think" E'd people vs non-E'd people are doing; (if 
consistent
> with Dharma or not).
>  Dharma AND karma are mutually inclusive, along with karma; and are
> both ultimately unfathomable.
>  We are left with common sense decisions, "AS IF" everybody were
> totally ignorant, or totally E'd. It's all the same, in regard to
> subjects out of one's field.  Of course, an E'd person can sometimes
> speak volumes on the nature of E'ment, or like Ramana Maharshi,
> "speak" volumes by remaining in complete silence. 
>  For example, an E'd person may render an opinion on ecomomics or
> politics; but have little expertise in those fields.  The fact that
> she's E'd should not influence our evaluation of the matter in 
common
> sense usage and in the proper context. E'd may carry little or no
> weight in terms of relative "rightness"; and in fact, there may be
> much "truthiness" (what people may FEEL or WANT to be right). Bill
> O'Reilly uses this term often. (I disagree with most of his opinions
> but his characterizations of "truthiness" usage is somewhat 
amusing).
>  By the same token, E'd people have their share of truthiness.
> In a nutshell, MMY has his own opinions on politics and economics, 
but
> the fact that he's E'd (probably), means nothing to me in evaluating
> the content of his statements.

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Bravo.  Beautifully expressed.

(Actually it was Stephen Colbert who coined
the term "truthiness."  I'm surprised O'Reilly
is using it, because it was coined as a negative
commentary on people like him.)


>   Bill O'Reilly says "The spin stops here".







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