--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > > > > > No, the court ruling had to do only with the use
> > > > > > > > of public funds, of course (the "establishment"
> > > > > > > > clause of the First Amendment).  As long as the
> > > > > > > > gummint ain't paying for it, it has nothing to
> > > > > > > > say.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And the teaching of TM/SCI during classtime and the 
> > > > > > > requirement that everyone attend a puja, etc.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Right, the use of government funds for any of these
> > > > > > things.
> > > > > 
> > > > > More than just the use of government funds. Lending ANY 
kind of
> > > > > support was forbidden.
> > > > 
> > > > Semantics, Lawson.  It all boils down to financial
> > > > support one way or the other.
> > > 
> > > Still more than just financial support. Talking it up was
> > > forbidden as well.
> > 
> > Talking it up while they're being paid by the gummint.
> > They're free to say anything they want in their off
> > hours when they're not representing the gummint.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > The defendents: 
> > > 
> > > hereby are permanently enjoined: (1) From the teaching, aiding 
in 
> > the teaching (including 
> > > but not limited to the providing of teaching materials), and 
the 
> > solicitation of any 
> > > municipality, school board or other political subdivision or 
> > governmental agency of the 
> > > State of New Jersey or of the Federal government, for the 
purpose 
> > of promoting the 
> > > teaching of any course of study which embodies and advocates 
any 
> > one or more of the 
> > > Science of Creative Intelligence/Transcendental Meditation, the 
> > concepts of the field of 
> > > pure creative intelligence, creative intelligence and bliss-
> > consciousness;
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> Mmmmm... I read the above as pretty much a blanket thing. None of 
the defendents were/
> are allowed to promote any of the above TO any of the above, 
period, whether they're 
> acting as officers of TM, the state gov or as the Secretary of 
Health, education and Welfare 
> (one of teh defendents named) OR as private citizens.

If you laid such a prohibition on a private citizen,
you'd be violating the *other* clause of the First
Amendment, that of freedom of religion.

And in any case, those you would be talking it up to
who were in a position to implement it wouldn't be
able to.  All that's necessary is to say it can't be
financed with government funds, and that covers any
talking done by those who could implement it.








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