--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <groups@> wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 10:31 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > For "your own" defined enlightenment, or some other teachers, sure. > > > However, for MMY's enlightenemt, you need his confirmation. > > > > > So what if you attain ³MMY¹s enlightenment² yet he¹s not there to > confirm > > it? Is your attainment invalid? > > > Your question does not follow from anything I have said. > > Experience is experience. > > However to proclaim MMY/TMO BC or other TMO/MMY style of enlightenment > without his confirmation is delusion or lack of integrity. > > You yourself mentioned the trap of misinterpreating some form of > awakening as being a much grander awakening. Given the extensive > history of this in the TMO, and given MMY has been so picky and > specific about confirmations of enlightenemnt, why does this premise > appear to be an issue or question to you: To proclaim MMY/TMO BC or > other TMO/MMY style of enlightenment without his confirmation is > delusion or lack of integrity. > > To proclaim ones own definition of enlightenement, or ones friend's, > is fine. Or for example, Alex's proclamation of his waking down level > I awakening (excuse my lack of preciseness of terms) is great. > > My sole point is that these are not MMY/TMO styles of enlightenment. > If you want to go to the mic, and have MMY confirm these as MMY/TMO BC > or other MMY/TMO enlightenment, then great. Then proclaim away. Until > then, its some other awakening. > > All yours and others apparent desire to proclaim their awakenings as > the same as MMY/TMO enlightenment is quite odd. Just pronounce what > ever awakening one wants. Other than those that have requirements that > one doesn't meet. >
No TMO/MMY enlightenment afer MMY passes then? Tougher for both parties to get to the mic then. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
