--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" 
> > > > <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > In 'Meditation: easy system propounded by Maharishi Mahesh 
> > Yogi' 
> > > > > (c1959) there is to be found a series of questions which 
> > includes 
> > > > the 
> > > > > following:
> > > > > Q. How does meditation improve the fortune of a man?
> > > > > A. Our system of meditation involves the All Mighty Power. 
We 
> > take 
> > > > > the 'MANTRA' of some God according to our faith and 
meditate 
> > on 
> > > > that. 
> > > > > The power of the 'MANTRA' brings to us the Almighty
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Grad students studying ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder) 
> > should 
> > > > now tune in to observe Judy Stein's next 40 posts in which 
she 
> > will 
> > > > demonstrate that Maharishi did NOT mean in that quote that 
TM 
> > > > mantras are the names of gods.
> > > > 
> > > > And then she will call you a liar.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Er, the usual definition of mantra isn't "name."
> > 
> > 
> > Er, the usual understood use of mantras in meditation consists 
of 
> > effort and concentration.
> >
> 
> So if you use effort and concentration, it's a mantra, but if you 
don't, it's really a name?
> 
> OK...


Yes, Spare Egg, your logic is impeccible.  That is exactly the point 
I was trying to make.






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