--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > [...] > > > One might say that the bija mantras are abstract > > > sounds that embody the devas (as opposed to their > > > *names*--Shiva, Lakshmi, and so on), in the nama- > > > and-rupa, "name"-and-form, formulation. "Name" as > > > a translation of "nama" is misleading in this > > > context. > > > > > > If the bija mantras are devas in this sense, and > > > devas are processes of knowing, what is it we are > > > doing with them in meditation? > > > > > > The mantra is the object of attention, or chhandas, > > > that which is known, as we use it in meditation. But > > > the mantra is also deva, or process of knowing--in > > > other words, attention itself. So in putting the > > > attention on the mantra, we are, in effect, > > > mantra-ing the mantra. > > > > > > No wonder it tends to become more and more subtle > > > and then disappear! > > > > > > Samadhi is the samhita (collected unity) of rishi, devata and > chhandas. > > > > What is "name" and what is "form" in that situation? > > Don't get the relevance, sorry. Are you agreeing > or disagreeing?
I guess I'm pointing out that "name and form" loses relevance when they merge. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
