--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> <snip>
> > > Carter was a fundie nut , just like bush and bin laden. 
> > > Get a real perspective instead of the usual brainwashed 
american 
> > > perspective. 
> > > No-one outside US buys this american BS..Why do you suppose 
that 
> > > is....coincidence?
> > 
> > Guess that's why he was awarded the Nobel Peace
> > Prize, huh?
> > 
> > In fact, Carter is widely respected outside the
> > U.S., probably more so than *in* the U.S.
> 
> Not that he doesn't have his faults and blind spots.
> 
> But just for example, he was the first U.S.
> president to speak out in support of gay rights; he
> is an ardent conservationist and supporter of the
> rights of women and minorities.  He has been
> recognized internationally, via many awards and
> honors, as a peacemaker and human rights advocate.
> He's also a very strong supporter of the separation
> of church and state.
> 
> Plus which, he has written an entire book ("Our
> Endangered Values") condemning the socially
> conservative agenda of today's fundamentalist
> Christians.>>>

Ok, so as an old man he has changed, just like Billie Graham now 
accepts other religions as legitimate. I accept Carter is a nice 
guy, but religion poisons politics with its arrogance - and I have 
no tolerance for it in politics.

 I think that every president should have to declare out loud on 
being inaugerated: 
" I believe all people are equal, and that no religion or non-
religion is superior to another, and I do not hold my own religion 
as superior, but a means to express my feelings to God"

Or something like that.
At the time of his inauguration GW Bush would have choked on those 
words, because he is a fundamentalist, and I am not sure Carter 
would have been able to say it at his innaguration either


> 
> In an interview with Mother Jones magazine (hardly
> a fundie rag) about the book, he said of this agenda:
> 
> The danger comes when those kinds of principles are applied on the 
> international scene. That brought about a whole gamut of things. 
One, 
> obviously, is the unprecedented preemptive war that President Bush 
> has declared to be a policy of our country. Another is the total 
> abandonment, and often the derogation, of every nuclear-arms 
> agreement that has been negotiated by previous presidents, 
beginning 
> in the time of Dwight Eisenhower. 
> 
> At home, it brought about the deterioration of our commitment to 
> environmental quality. Another [effect] is the enormous preference 
> that has been given in tax laws recently to the extremely rich at 
the 
> expense of working-class and poorer people. Then there's the 
implied 
> melding of science and religion, where even the president himself 
has 
> expressed the opinion that religious beliefs should be taught in 
> scientific classrooms. That's unprecedented. And there is a unique 
> and special emphasis—which is a recent development too—within the 
> religious community, an obsession with the condemnation of 
> homosexuality. Now, in the bible homosexuality is condemned, but 
> along with divorce and greed and callousness toward poor people. 
So 
> its elevation to a highest priority among some religious groups 
has 
> been very disturbing to me. 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/gu2k7
>







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