TurquoiseB wrote: >--- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>--- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" >><geezerfreak@> wrote: >> >> >>>>Is that cos Guru Dev is competition too???????? >>>> >>>> > >Absolutely. > > > >>I have had some thoughts about that. If MMY who is saying >>that he tried to be like Guru Dev - read his mind - walked >>in his footsteps - had lived like Guru Dev - it would have >>been a different TMO. If MMY had given out exactly what >>Guru Dev said - (I know your quotes, Paul), it would have >>been very obvious that MMYs teaching is different from >>Guru Devs teaching in many ways. >> >> > >Bingo. A perfect segue to another of the "trying >to figure it out" raps done while "catching up" >on FFL this last month: > >************************************************************ > >Becoming in Tune with One's Teacher's Thinking > >What I find that I'm developing about Fairfield Life and >its regulars after this self-enforced absence is a sense >of compassion for many of the people who spend so much of >their time being so angry there. What I think is driving >the anger is a profound sense of loss -- at Maharishi and >what he has become, for the TMO for what it has become, >and for themselves and what they have become. > >Having watched FFL for over a year, there is a pattern in >which the rancor increases, and people start slinging mud >at each other and calling each other names. It starts up >every time the TM movement or Maharishi personally does >something really, really, really stupid. Like the latest >bit with the course in Fairfield, using it as an oppor- >tunity to "weed out" those who have been "unfaithful" >to Maharishi, and have had the gall to "see other people." >Or to try to make them feel shame for not falling for >the "cry wolf" game one more time. > >A few people here get really, really, really upset every >time the TMO does something this stupid. And then they >lash out at others, trying to blame them and demonize >them for the way that these stupid things make *them* >feel inside. *They* hate this stuff that Maharishi does >and that the TMO does as much as anyone else, but they >can't bring themselves to admit it, so IMO they feel >compelled to lash out at others and blame the way that >*they* feel on them. > >In my opinion this odd behavior happens because the >people who do it have modeled their minds on the mind >of a person who thinks this way himself, and acts >this way himself. > >This mind-modeling has taken place on many levels. >It's been learned consciously in response to words >spoken by Maharishi and taught by example as he >performs the actions that they interpret as enlight- >ened and attempt to emulate. But even more important, >it's been accomplished through the process of them >-- the TBs -- doing what they were told to do by >Maharishi himself, practicing the spiritual technique >he held up for them as the quintessence of spiritual >practice -- "becoming in tune with one's teacher's >thinking." > >*That* is the spiritual model that Maharishi sells, >more than any other. Blind devotion to one's teacher >and trying to cultivate the ability to think like >him is what he's sold to his close followers all >these years -- not TM, not the siddhis. We can see >this most clearly when someone he has given a lot >of attention to within the TM movement decides to >leave it, and him. Maharishi takes such "betrayals" >very, very personally, and far from graciously. > >It's *Maharishi* who has the hangup about "loyalty," >and who views anyone who isn't completely "faithful" >to him forever as weak and a failure, or an actual >enemy. It's *Maharishi's* mindset we see in the words >of the TBs, spoken by people who don't even know that >the mindset they're expressing is not their own. > >And interestingly, I think the reason Maharishi feels >this way is that he's doing the same thing the TBs on >FFL and elsewhere in the TMO are doing, projecting >his own internal dis-ease outwards. > >IMO Maharishi feels "betrayed" by those who don't do >everything he says because *he* didn't do what Guru >Dev told him to do. He was told to go off and >meditate, and *not* to teach, and he did the opposite. >I honestly think that inwardly he feels that he >betrayed his teacher, and that these feelings come >to the surface for him whenever someone "betrays" >him by not doing exactly what *he* tells them to do. >As with the TBs he's trained to think like him, when >this happens Maharishi blames the person who has made >him feel this way, and often does his best to demonize >them for leaving, or for not following his advice as >if it were the word of God. But what I think he's >really angry at them for is making *him* feel emotions >he doesn't like to experience. > >What he's feeling when his students don't do what he >tells them to do is his own karma. It's just so sad >that he's never been able to realize that. > >************************************************************ > My tantra guru has a really different attitude. He has even encouraged me to visit other gurus and teachers. Part of it is a test to separate the wheat from the chaff, the charlatans from the real folks. Sometimes we go together to visit them. He will often always ask me a set of questions after the visit, one of which usually is "what tradition is this guru from." In many cases none.
His attitude is that if his teaching is the right one for you, you're going to stick to it anyway rather than changing boats. He also talks about some gurus being fill-in until the seeker finds the teacher who is right for him. Apparently some of the TMO gets really upset about people visiting saints but in India visiting a saint doesn't mean you're going to be their disciple. In fact some of them don't take disciples. On my TTC Maharishi brought an Indian saint with him. Then some here have said that when Maharishi was asked about people who have moved on to other gurus he has responded positively. Apparently he is aware of limitations on what he can teach and that some will want more personalized instruction than he is able to give (one of the downsides of being a pop guru). BTW, I recently updated my guru's websites so be sure to check it out and the new videos posted there on a variety of subjects, plus I also put a couple on YouTube to see what would happen and that really increased traffic to the site: www.realtantrasolutions.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
