--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "chaim_laib" <chaim_laib@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > >  I *never* encountered any
> > > teaching in the TM context about "blind devotion
> > > to one's teacher" or "becoming in tune with one's
> > > teacher's thinking" as "the quintessence of spiritual
> > > practice."
> > 
> > Although Maharishi may not have ever said this explicitly-I want
> > you, my followers, to become in tune with my thinking-he 
certainly
> > requested this, no, demanded it in every way. If you did not do 
what
> > he said, when he said, you were out, All things are done his way 
or
> > it's the highway. After enough of this, you learn to do exactly 
what
> > you are told to do.
> 
> As a rank-and-file TMer, I never encountered this.
> 
> Sure, there were rules on residence courses that you
> had to follow, but there were rules in school, at
> work, everywhere.  It never occurred to me that they
> were intended to tell us we should be "in tune with
> Maharishi's thinking" in the way Barry portrays.


It simply isn't the TM Program.

Indeed, interjecting a "master" and his "follow-me" requirements is 
most certainly OFF the program.



> 
> > Also, and perhaps more to the point, how many dozens of times 
did 
> > I/we hear the story, either directly from Maharishi, or on the 
> > taped story, or rehashed/recounted by Bevan, et. al, of how 
> > Maharishi put himself in tune with Guru Dev and in his innocent, 
> > Trotakacharya-like self-atunement with his Guru Dev, his own 
> > consciousness merged with Guru Dev's/Universal C'ness.
> 
> I saw the taped story on a residence course once.
> The teacher emphasized that this was *MMY's* path
> and not one we were supposed to adopt.
> 
> I wasn't disputing that teachers didn't get this
> laid on them.  In context, my point was that it
> wasn't imposed on rank-and-file TMers, which meant
> that Barry had to be referring to teachers.  But he
> said he was describing TBs on this forum, and I can't
> think of any TBs on this forum who are also teachers.
> Can you?
> 
> Barry often goes on rants about "a few people here
> who..." when there actually aren't any such people
> here; he invents them for purposes of the rant.
> This was just another example, and it was the only
> reason I raised the point.
> 
> > This was told over and over and many Westnerns took this to mean 
> > that if they want to rise to the heights of enlightenment they
> > need to do the same. People will tell you this in nearly plain 
> > English by (selectively) following things Maharishi has said and 
> > parroting back, "Maharishi said...."
> 
> Oh, NONSENSE!!  It depends *entirely* on the context
> whether "Maharishi sez..." has that connotation.  You're
> doing what Barry does and conflating "This is what MMY
> sez..." with "What MMY sez is True."
> 
> <snip>
>







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