--- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Aug 27, 2006, at 10:42 AM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > Let's take another example.
> >
> > Suppose somebody says they don't think MMY is a
> > male chauvinist.
> >
> > And I respond, "Well, he does say women should
> > stay at home and raise the children."
> >
> > Would you assume I *believed* women should stay
> > at home and raise the children?
> >
> No.

Good.  That's the point I was trying to make.

>  But what you and the others (pro-TMers) have been
> saying all along is, "Well, he does say women should
> stay home and raise the children, but that doesn't
> necessarily make him a male chauvinist."
> 
> See the difference? :)

Well, it's not what I've said, Sal, to the contrary.

And in any case, a pro-TMer who *did* say that
would be making it quite clear they *did* believe
what they were quoting.  You would know what they
believed from the context.

So you're actually reinforcing my point.

I think part of your problem is that you assume,
perhaps unconsciously, that being pro-TM
automatically means believing everything MMY says.

It doesn't.  Some pro-TMers do believe everything
MMY says.  Some believe some things he says and
not others.  Some believe some things he says,
don't believe others, and haven't a clue about
still others.

I'm in the last category, FYI.  So you need to
know the *context* of my quoting MMY to know
whether I agree, disagree, or don't have a view
either way; or in some cases I may have a view,
but it's not relevant to the context.

Barry knows I'm in the last category too, but he
simply ignores the context and makes the default
assumption that I agree with anything I quote 
MMY as saying, because he can always use that
as a putdown.






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