--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Since I seem to be in a two cents mood for a few days .... > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote: > > < big snip > > > > Obviously GD was a very powerfull > > > yogi, full with the radiance of decades of tapasya, but also with very > > > outdated and oldfashioned ideas. > > > > Yes. There are some interesting points being made in this discussion. > > > > One of my big heresies within the TMO was to suggest that being > > enlightened (yes, working on the assumption that MMY is enlightened) > > does not free one from all historic, cultural, and ideological > > boundarie s. It's easy for people to look at an old-fashioned idea > > that Guru Dev may have had and reject it because it doesn't fit with > > modern thinking. > > Well, you don't have to be *that* modern to reject his ideas in this > regard as oldfashioned. Around that time, the turn of last century, > there was lot of discussion about renovating Hinduism, and there was > considerable scepticism as to what the original Veda actually meant. > Just think of the reformist Hindu movements like Brahmo Samaj or Arya > Samaj. For example Ganapati Muni strived for equality of women and men > with regard to vedic studies. He was of the opinion, that caste was > not determined by birth, but by the distribution of sattva, rajas and > tamas in an individual.
MMY says it's determined by the Jyotish chart, which allegedly is the same thing. > > > Within the TMO there is a disinclination to consider that MMY's word > > and actions are also influenced by culture and thus that everything he > > says is not "the absolute speaking absolutely" (rather, no more than > > it is when you or I or they themselves speak), that women in saris is > > just fashion and culture instead of a law of nature, that condemnation > > of english and modern education and a strong campaign to repatriate > > the wealth "stolen" by the west back to India might be an just > > ideological quest, and that worshipping "laws of nature" in the form > > of Lakshmi and Ganesh might just be Hinduism and not neutral science. > > > > Just as it is not a condemnation of Guru Dev to recognize the cultural > > milieu in which he operated, nor is it a condemnation to recognize the > > same about any other spiritual teacher whether it's Meister Eckhardt, > > St. Teresa of Avilla, Walt Whitman, the woman next door, or MMY. > > I agree with all of your points. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
