--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 > <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > To paraphrase someone I respect a lot in a > discussion > about "guru > > > > infallibility"--some people say Maharishi > doesn't make > mistakes. > > > > Nonesense. If you you are in the relative > there are mistakes. > He makes > > > > a master's mistakes, that's all. > > > > > > > > With all the implications arising from that! > > > > > > Well put! > > > > > > > When MMY talks about making "no mistakes," he's > talking about > doing things that slow > > your evolution towards enlightenment. Once you > reach CC you make > no more mistakes. > > That doesn't mean the person in CC can't miss the > baseball when > he/she swings at it. > > > > Also, as you progress beyond CC, your influence > and perception of > Self starts to expand > > and "make no mistakes" takes on a broader and > broader > significance, but STILL in the > > context of evolution towards enlightenment... > > > > ...and you STILL might miss that baseball, even in > UC. > > > About making mistakes, Like Peter asks, 'what's a > mistake?'. > > The reason Maharishi has said that enlightened souls > don't make > mistakes, is that from the perspective of an > enlightened person, > there are no mistakes. There is only the eternal > ever changing > relative existence, supported by Reality, of which > we as enlightened > individuals gracefully are. > > From the perspective of unenlightened individuals, > mistakes are > abundant, by definition, and so even if they are > looking at an > enlightened person, they will see mistakes. > > So when Maharishi says the enlightened don't make > mistakes, he is > simply clarifying the definition of enlightenment, > the Reality of > enlightenment, and not as many have supposed, > justifying his actions > to the unenlightened. I think you can see it as part of the "useful fiction" MMY created in developing a waking state model of Realization. We make lots of mistakes in waking state. And I think, in waking state, a mistake is an action that produces a result that we don't like. So we say, "I made a mistake." It is interesting to note that all mistakes are retrospective. They arise from counter-factual thinking: "I did that, but I should have done this." Although the option of "this" only arises after having done "that." And when we did "that" it was not a mistake because there was no "this" as a behavioral option. "This" arises only after the result of the action is experienced. "This" is a fantasy of what we should have done when "that" doesn't work out to our liking. It can tie the mind up in knots. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
