--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I'm with you on this one, Curtis. If celibacy comes
> naturally, with no thought or strain, then fine. But
> most people need to have sex and guess what, it has no
> impact on your "evolution" at all. People can be so
> unsimple and so un-natural in the TMO.   
> 



On the one hand, I've had the best subjective experiences in TM 
during times of celibacy.

On the other, living in a society where every billboard around every 
corner is enticing you to "schwing!" if you get my drift, celibacy 
can be excruciatingly frustrating and, yes, dangerous to your health.

I think if one is in a monastery or a surroundings that is protected 
from the influences of society then, yes, celibacy is a worthy ideal 
to aspire to.

Otherwise, you're on a really hard and unpleasant road...





> --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > I honestly think celibacy is an unhealthy practice. 
> > Use it or lose it
> > is the rule in biology.  Semen was considered magic
> > in Vedic culture,
> > but MMY's belief that it get transmuted into soma is
> > just
> > pre-scientific nonsense.  The body does not work
> > that way.  On the
> > other hand, believing that you are losing magical
> > energy by having sex
> > is a great way to insure that you will not have a
> > fulfilling intimate
> > relationship with your partner.  Sex is not only
> > natural, it is one of
> > the greatest communications you can have with
> > someone you love.  
> > 
> > Believing that you should hold it back is a sad
> > metaphor for holding
> > back your heart or other energy from the people you
> > love in your life.
> >  Losing this misunderstanding about how my body
> > worked was one of the
> > greatest benefits of my leaving MMY's belief system.
> >  Sex is not a
> > loss of energy, or a lower use of your life force.
> > 
> > Even if you are not in love with someone, don't give
> > up on sex.  As
> > the great sage Woody Alan said: " Sex without love
> > is an empty,
> > meaningless experience.  But among empty,
> > meaningless experiences, it
> > is one of the best!"
> > 
> > As each cast member of Seinfield  on the famous
> > Bramacharin episode 
> > said one by one: "I'm out!"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], cardemaister
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > What is the longest time youse have stayed
> > > /uurdhva-retas/("brahmacharin")? Does it become
> > "easier"
> > > after a couple of weeks or so?
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], cardemaister
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > What is the longest time youse have stayed
> > > /uurdhva-retas/("brahmacharin")? Does it become
> > "easier"
> > > after a couple of weeks or so?
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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