--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >>>> 'Mayi Amma is hundreds of years old.. She used towalk right
> > >>>> into the sea
> > >>>> and stay underwater at the sea bed years onend..
> > >>>
> > >>> The gospel according to t3rinity.
> > >>
> > >> Makes me wonder...when did stuff like this start being gospel
> > >> and stop being fairy tales?
> > >
> > > My experience is that the more real, strong, vibrant
> > > and consistent spiritual experiences that people are
> > > having in a spiritual group, the *less* interest there
> > > is in the group with these sorts of things. And the
> > > fewer spiritual experiences people are having on a
> > > daily basis, the more interest there is in such things.
> > 
> > Probably true.  But I'm not interested in either one, so 
> > I wonder where that leaves me? :)  It's not that I'm not 
> > interested in the spiritual experiences (so-called) I'm 
> > just not interested in chattering about it--seems kind 
> > of pointless.
> > 
> > But others obviously are--so chatter away! :)
> 
> Indeed, Sal. In fact, one of the distinctions made by
> some traditions between different two basic "types" of 
> spiritual seekers is that one type is more interested 
> in discussing/studying the experiences of others and
> and the other type is more interested/only interested 
> in having their own experiences.
> 
> Within that (artificial) breakdown, I find it interesting 
> what type of experiences themselves different seekers 
> seem to be interested in and attracted to. Some seem to 
> be attracted to the more pragmatic types of experience, 
> and other seem to be more attracted to the more woo-woo, 
> very-possibly-fictional types of experience. I guess 
> it's the same distinction you see in mainstream religion; 
> some Christians feel drawn to Christ because of his 
> attitude towards the poor and the downtrodden, and 
> others can appreciate only the flashy stuff, the walking 
> on water and the miracles.
> 
> Again, different strokes for different folks...


Thanks to both of you. Since reading Paul's post re Sattyanand and 
Guru Dev's death, I have been thinking that the only point in a 
discussion group with a supposed spiritual bent is to help one 
another "advance" -- to share experiences, methods, teachings. It's 
so easy to get sucked into sectarianism and fundamentalism and closed-
minded bickering. -- I don't think it matters which/whose tradition 
what comes from; it's all valuable to someone, sometime, somewhere. 

The secrecy thing that shrouds TM is such reactionary and petty 
separatism doesn't help anyone. It breeds jealousy, egoism, paranoia 
and a general drag on evolution. 

Again, thanks to you (and many others) -- there is still hope.





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