Spraig, Your dismissive answer does not hide your ignorance about hypnosis. TM researchers fixation on proving that the TM state is unique is part of their marketing hype. Hypnosis researchers do not have the same agenda, so they may not just focus on the variables TM researchers use to prove their case that TM is extra special, super duper, and the very bestest trance in the whole wide world, worth every dollar charged.
--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > Wellll... Short answer: there's no consistent physiological changes > > found in hypnotic > > > subjects while there is with TMers. > > > > I wonder if the hypnotic subjects you are talking about practiced it > > as consistently as the TM group. What type of hypnotic technique was > > used? As you may know, there are as many hypnotic techniques as there > > are types of mediation. Calling one subject a hypnotic subject is > > like using a generic meditator in place of a TM meditator. Perhaps > > the TM form of self-hypnosis does show consistent physiological > > changes. That doesn't prove that it is a different state, it may be a > > subset of the broader trance phenomenon. > > > > MMY calls the TM induced states "higher states". I think this is > > marketing hype with no evidence of "higher" anything in its practicers > > with the exception of some who seem to have induced inflated > > self-regard. > > > > I am glad there are people researching this stuff. There is a lot of > > room for different points of view. I suspect that I chose my own view > > after a more rigorous test of the uniqueness of TM states in the > > movement than you have with hypnosis. If you were trained in > > Ericksonian hypnosis you might change your mind. You have the choice > > to study it, or not. > > > > > > Short answer: where's the research published by scientists that shows consistent > physiological correlates to hypnosis? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
