Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope's speech on Faith and reason

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 9/18/06 11:00:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's what you said: "Unfortunately, there are many who say they aren't evolved enough to handle democracy and need a Saddam or that we have no business helping these people get rid of their dictators that steel their wealth that pours into their nations by the hundreds of billions of dollars. The same also say it's too costly or lets just do what we can to get along so we can do business and keep the oil flowing as cheaply as we can. <No, not everybody wants to keep the third world nations impoverished and under the thumbs of dictators, just some." Do you really not find your incredibly feeble copout above embarrassing? You were *obviously* referring to politicians. But now that you're trying to wiggle out of that and pretend you were talking about people on this forum, it turns out there's only *one* person, and you aren't even sure they used that term. Moreover, "not ready for" is very different from "not evolved enough." One may be entirely circumstantial--he wasn't ready for the big leagues (because he hadn't trained long enough)--but that doesn't mean *inherently* incapable. "Not ready for democracy" is a statement about the situation; "not evolved enough for democracy" is an insult to a nation's people. They aren't interchangeable. You tried to put that insult, which you yourself made up, in the mouths of liberals. Shame on you. Let me ask you then Judy, do you think Iraq is "ready" for Democracy? Or do you think they need a "strong man" to keep their society in order? Obviously several on this list think it was a mistake to change the regime in Iraq. Which means they think Iraq would have been better off ruled under Saddam. Most of the Democrat party NOW believes that if they had known before what they know now, they would have been against the war and there would have been no regime change at least with their consent. So my question to you is, was removing Saddam from power a mistake? And do you think that Iraqi's are not ready for Democracy now?If removing him from power was not a mistake, what would you have replaced him with? Perhaps my word selection accusing liberals of thinking of Arabs as not being "evolved" enough would have been better put as being "not ready for", but either way you put it, it is still an insult to Muslim nations to think they are some how not ready to take the step up to a democratic form of government which Iraq would not have now had Democrat Monday morning Quarter backs had their way. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___