--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/18/06 10:38:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > (snip) > "I'm asking for a name and quote from someone who > > says Iraqis aren't evolved enough to handle > > democracy. I gather you just made that part up." > > It's not a question of evolution, > More of a question of having a democracy, > In a culture of Islam. > Islam is based on subjugation of woman. > So right there, no democracy is possible. > And so many other reasons... > Mr.Bush was influenced by a Russian writer- > Natan Sharansky, Soviet human rights activist and Israeli > politician ... > Anyway, this Russian guy, convinced Mr.Bush, that democracy would be > the answer to everything..t > Mr.Bush bought this notion, lock, stock and barrel... > The only problem is, it may be compatible with European and other > systems of religion...or belief system. > But Islam does not allow for free debate. > Beheadings are more the style there. > Therefore,,, democracy does not work, and is incompatible with Islam.. > R.G. > > > > > > > R.G. I have to agree with how you put. I wasn't referring to > people on this list as seeing the Muslims as being somehow > less than Human, but exactly as you put it. That they, as a > people, are not ready for Democracy because it is not compatible > with their culture. I was referring to Social evolution not > biological evolution.
And yet, you claimed in another message that the word "evolved" should have clued readers in to the fact that you were referring to people (turned out to be one person, and maybe not even him) on this forum. The sense in which "evolved" is most often used here has to do with evolution of consciousness-- spiritual evolution--not sociological or biological evolution. So I'm not buying your further backpedal. > And I have to disagree with the premise, that Islamic > countries are not ready for Democracy. I think any > civilized people are ready for it, but may need more > time and help depending on what their previous > experiences have been. "May need more time and help" = "not ready" Any time I've seen *anyone* suggest anything about the difficulties Iraqis are having with democracy, it's been in the sense of needing more time and help, not that democracy is "incompatible with their culture." And I've never, *ever* heard what Bush claimed, that there were people who thought that those "with a different skin color than ours" weren't capable of democracy. (Who was Bush referring to by the word "ours", I wonder?) > Iraq would be a particularly hard place to put it to the > test since there has been an age old conflict between Sunni, > Shi'ia and Kurds and there is so much mistrust between each > ethnic group. All of which was very well known long before Bush invaded Iraq. He was warned over and over again that democracy would be very hard to institute and would take careful planning and follow-up, and he ignored every single warning. He marched into Iraq and proceeded to foul things up so badly that now it's not just going to be very hard, it's going to be virtually impossible. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
