--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 9/19/06 2:03:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > babajii_99@ writes:
> > 
> >  
> > And I have to disagree with the premise, that Islamic
> > > >  countries are not ready for Democracy. I think any
> > > > civilized  people are ready for it, but may need more
> > > > time and help  depending on what their previous 
> > > > experiences have been".
> > >  
> > > "May need more time and help" = "not ready"
> <snip>
> > 
> > Needing more time or needing help doesn't mean a country isn't 
> > ready for democracy.
> 
> Uh, well, yes, it does, by definition.  It would be
> ready for democracy only if it *didn't* need more time
> and help.
> 
> It's not an insult or a criticism to say Iraq isn't
> ready for democracy, given what they've been through
> and the disastrous mess the U.S. has made of the
> occupation.



The U.S. obviously wasn't ready for democracy, as evidenced by their 
civil war which took hundreds of thousands of lives.

Grow up, MDixon.  Judy's right.

And Judy's worldview should prevail: We should have two United 
States today: North U.S. where slavery is illegal and South U.S. 
where slavery and discrimination against Blacks is the law of the 
land.



> 
> But Bush tries to portray it as an insult, or a lack
> of faith in the Iraqis' innate ability to have a
> democracy.  He even portrayed it as racism in that
> passage I quoted.  He does this to try to intimidate
> his critics, but it's a straw man.
> 
> No responsible politician or leader that I've heard
> has ever suggested the Iraqis are *innately* incapable
> of democracy.
> 
> > Democracy has not always come easily to those that enjoy it  now.
> 
> Right.  We in the U.S. weren't ready for it for quite
> some time.
>






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