--- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "larry.potter"
> <larry.potter@> wrote:
> >
> > since Barry is not his body, i guess he wouldn't mind if
> > anyone of us would blow his head off.
> > 
> > :)
> 
> Larry, please don't give him ideas like this, not the body and 
such;
> Who knows someone so detatched could strap a belt to himself, just 
to
> make a statement.

Barry is a living proof to how easy it is to twist spiritual 
knowledge.

btw,he is so detached in general that he couldn't stay away from the 
forum for more than two weeks.  i don't read many posts, maybe i've 
missed some of his gems so far.

> Thank God France has him at present, or at least this forum is 
being
> monitored...

lol

> R.G. 


> 
> 
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" 
<babajii_99@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure why it is important to some to make TMO into a 
cult;
> > > > And then try to inform others to save them from making their 
own
> > > > decisions, concerning their relationship with Maharishi, and 
the 
> > > > movement.
> > > > Everyone has his or her life to life, and everyone has the 
right 
> > to
> > > > make their own decisions, especially those of a spiritual 
nature.
> > > > To mock someone's sincere belief, is a kind of fascism, and 
> > reminds 
> > > > me of the mocking of the Jews by the Nazis; what's the 
> > difference?
> > > > The Nazis considered the Jews a cult...
> > > > You speak so much of the 'Bliss-Nazis'; but you follow their 
> > > > example...
> > > 
> > > For the record, this is EXACTLY the mindset I've
> > > been talking about this morning.
> > > 
> > > RG is the kind of person who is so attached to
> > > his description of self that he believes that
> > > what he believes and who he is are the same
> > > thing. And that anyone who mocks his beliefs 
> > > mocks him.
> > > 
> > > IT'S NOT TRUE.
> > > 
> > > We are NOT what we believe. We are NOT the 
> > > groups we identify with.
> > > 
> > > Robert is NOT a "TMer." He is NOT a Jew. When
> > > it all comes down, he does NOT even have a self.
> > > 
> > > But because he hasn't realized yet that he 
> > > doesn't have a self, he clings to that illusion
> > > of self and thinks that it exists, and furthermore
> > > that it belongs to some "group" of equally non-
> > > existent selves he calls Jews or TMers. Then he
> > > gets fearful and threatened when someone disses
> > > his "group." 
> > > 
> > > The Iranians diss the Jews, and he get so terrified 
> > > that he advocates nuking them here on FFL. A few 
> > > folks describe the TMO differently than he'd like 
> > > the group described, and he gets so fearful and 
> > > threatened that he compares those folks to Nazis.
> > > 
> > > THIS is what happens when you don't know who
> > > you really are, and start to identify with that 
> > > silly, non-existent thing you call "self." Even 
> > > sadder is what happens when one of those non-
> > > existent selves is so weak and so lost that it 
> > > feels whole only when it considers itself part
> > > of a group.
> > >
> >
>







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