new.morning wrote:

>--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>--- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@>
>>wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>And the TBs of TM are, without a shred of doubt, 
>>>living in a cult.
>>>      
>>>
>>I agree, but I'll add another dimension to it.
>>
>>As you say, the point is not in recognizing that
>>one has been part of a cult, but in getting *past*
>>the cult mindset. And one can do that and still
>>feel positively about the group, or even still
>>work for the group.
>>
>>IMO the first step of that process is being able 
>>to say the word, and apply it to oneself without
>>fear and aversion and anger.
>>
>>I find that when I meet someone who spent a long
>>time in a spiritual trip like the TMO (or the Rama
>>trip, or many others), one of the key indicators
>>as to whether I will be able to get along with them
>>or not is how they relate to that word "cult."
>>    
>>
>
>Turq,
>
>Were TM and Rama your only cults. No others? Then Or now? 
>
>I count about ten for me. About 8-12 for others I know. Either I am
>way cultier than you, or you have yet to face the reality of your cult
>past and present. 
>
What is your definition of a cult?   Your definition of Turqy's cults 
are rather broad.   By those definitions anyone who watched a TV show on 
a regular basis would be considered in a cult.  Now maybe if they 
watched that show and got together with a group of people who were not 
only a fan club but worshiped members of the cast with rituals then you 
might have a cult.  And if they punished anyone who trying to leave the 
group it might considered a cult.

Likewise if you have a guitar teacher you see regularly for lessons I 
wouldn't call that a cult either anymore than I would call seeing a 
personal guru regularly.  However if the guitar teacher or the personal 
guru has a group that worship them then that might be a cult.




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