--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine > <salsunshine@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:40 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > > > > > ...then it shouldn't be so hard for you to come up with, > say, 10 > > > > > examples of things they have said that aren't so... > > > > > > > > > > Well? > > > > > > > > > OK< Shemp, find 10 legitimate scientists who have said that > > global > > > > warming doesn't exist. > > > > > > > > Well? > > > > > > Here's 19,700: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition > > > > First of all, the petition did *not* say that global > > warming doesn't exist. > > > > Second, from that link: > > > > "Scientific American took a sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories > > claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 > we > > were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still > agreed > > with the petition - one was an active climate researcher, two > others > > had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal > > evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three > > did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not > > answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition > > supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers a > > respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the > > climatological community." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also: http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p686.htm > > > > > > > > Although the Oregon Petition has its detractors, at least it was an > attempt to get a consensus...and 19,400 signatures is pretty > impressive. > > Al Gore, who consistently says there is a consensus amongst > scientists that global warming is the threat he says it is and who > claims the debate is over hasn't, to my knowledge, come out with a > list of scientists he claims is part of that consensus and if and > when he does, I doubt it will be anywhere near 19,400. > > Another "consensus": 99 senators (out of 100, the 100th wasn't > present for the vote) voted against the Kyoto protocol. > > Let's quote Bill Clinton at this point regarding the Oregon > Petition. What did Clinton say when confronted by Chris Wallace > regarding his flaws about going after Bin Laden? He said: "No, I > didn't get him but at least I tried," > > So, Judy, the Oregon Petition may be flawed and you may have a > problem with the people behind it but as far as getting > a "consensus" at least they tried. > > Where's Gore's consensus? >
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