--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Oct 4, 2006, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote:
> 
> > Some of this talk about "how wierd this is" and "what mood-making!"
> > sounds like stale gossip from a DAR meeting -- discussing anyone not
> > in their "cirlce".
> >
> > Where is the undboundedness of awareness, and freshness of vision,
> > when one can look at something new (or uncovered) and simply say
> > "interesting".
> >
> > Per the broadcast, I like the vedic recitation parts. And for me, I
> > find Nader and Hagelin's talks much more on point and coherent than
> > some of MMY's -- who is prone, IMO, to repetition and circular  
> > references.
> >
> > I found the talks to give a nice vision. Its sweet. Maybe it will not
> > come to fruition. Maybe it will. Look back at it in 200 years. 1000
> > years. maybe it will all be dust. maybe it will be something. Possibly
> > something of value to the world.
> >
> > Christianity became a world thing out of what I understand was a small
> > chaotic group, floundering for several centuries. That is not to say
> > that all floundering things become great. Few do. But small and
> > floundering in early years does not disqualify it.
> 
> 
> I think it already has. TM was a major catalyst for raising the  
> interest level for meditation period--TMers who went on to other  
> forms of meditation, people who heard all the TM marketing spin and  
> thought "maybe I should check out some form of meditation" or people  
> who just always stuck with TM. TM's major contribution to this world  
> may just simply be being "at the right place at the right time"--it  
> might not even be TM itself, but the catalysis it's promotion and  
> presence provided in collective awareness. In that sense maybe (as  
> someone once claimed the Bhrigu shastras stated) Mahesh Varma is a  
> minor avatar (1/16th of an avatar IIRC). Just a messenger, don't kill  
> him. And whether one likes TM as their own form of meditation or not  
> I think most meditators would acknowledge that mediation together in  
> groups is a good thing--another trend the TMO helped inject into  
> world awareness. It may just all be about nudging world awareness on  
> these two topics.
>


You know Vaj, I wonder about the same thing when I listen to stuff
like this http://www.theendofsuffering.org. Dr. Russell Targ, remote
viewing instructor, writing about non-locality and non-duality, and
Dr. Jim Hardt using advanced bio-feedback to assemble the global mind.
 Two nights in a row on late night Coast to Coast AM nationwide. 

JohnY  






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