On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:45 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On Oct 4, 2006, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote:



Some of this talk about "how wierd this is" and "what mood-making!"

sounds like stale gossip from a DAR meeting -- discussing anyone not

in their "cirlce".


Where is the undboundedness of awareness, and freshness of vision,

when one can look at something new (or uncovered) and simply say

"interesting".


Per the broadcast, I like the vedic recitation parts. And for me, I

find Nader and Hagelin's talks much more on point and coherent than

some of MMY's -- who is prone, IMO, to repetition and circular  

references.


I found the talks to give a nice vision. Its sweet. Maybe it will not

come to fruition. Maybe it will. Look back at it in 200 years. 1000

years. maybe it will all be dust. maybe it will be something. Possibly

something of value to the world.


Christianity became a world thing out of what I understand was a small

chaotic group, floundering for several centuries. That is not to say

that all floundering things become great. Few do. But small and

floundering in early years does not disqualify it.




I think it already has. TM was a major catalyst for raising the  

interest level for meditation period--TMers who went on to other  

forms of meditation, people who heard all the TM marketing spin and  

thought "maybe I should check out some form of meditation" or people  

who just always stuck with TM. TM's major contribution to this world  

may just simply be being "at the right place at the right time"--it  

might not even be TM itself, but the catalysis it's promotion and  

presence provided in collective awareness. In that sense maybe (as  

someone once claimed the Bhrigu shastras stated) Mahesh Varma is a  

minor avatar (1/16th of an avatar IIRC). Just a messenger, don't kill  

him. And whether one likes TM as their own form of meditation or not  

I think most meditators would acknowledge that mediation together in  

groups is a good thing--another trend the TMO helped inject into  

world awareness. It may just all be about nudging world awareness on  

these two topics.





You know Vaj, I wonder about the same thing when I listen to stuff

like this http://www.theendofsuffering.org. Dr. Russell Targ, remote

viewing instructor, writing about non-locality and non-duality, and

Dr. Jim Hardt using advanced bio-feedback to assemble the global mind.

 Two nights in a row on late night Coast to Coast AM nationwide. 


JohnY  


Thanks, I'll add it to my MP3 player.

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