--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "larry.potter" 
> <larry.potter@> wrote:
> 
> Here's the same transcript on video:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ze772
> 
> 

Thanks,
 she is a very courageous woman. as for how much it will influence
 people's mind set in the near future i'm not sure. but i am happy
 it came out from the a Muslim.


> >
> > 
> > [ i respect Wafa and think she is the best thing that happen to 
> Islam
> > in the recent decade.  She is a true free thinker. JMHO ]
> > 
> > 
> > 2/21/2006 Clip No. 1050 
> >  
> > Arab-American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan: There is No Clash of 
> > Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle 
Ages 
> > and That of the 21st Century 
> >  
> > Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American 
> > psychiatrist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera 
TV 
> > on February 21, 2006
> > 
> > . 
> > Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not 
a 
> > clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash 
> > between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a 
> > mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality 
> that 
> > belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization 
> and 
> > backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between 
> > barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and 
> > oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash 
> > between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of 
these 
> > rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat 
women 
> > like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we 
> see 
> > today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not 
clash, 
> > but compete.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today 
is 
> a 
> > clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and 
> > ignorance of the Muslims?
> > 
> > Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? 
> Was 
> > it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to 
> > discuss this issue, if you don't mind...
> > 
> > Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this 
> > expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of 
> > civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: "I was ordered to 
fight 
> > the people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger." When 
> the 
> > Muslims divided the people into Muslims and non-Muslims, and 
> called 
> > to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves 
> > believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order 
to 
> > stop this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and 
> > curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the 
> > infidels.
> > 
> > My colleague has said that he never offends other people's 
> beliefs. 
> > What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call 
> other 
> > people by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, 
he 
> > calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the "People 
> of 
> > the Book," and yet another time he compares them to apes and 
pigs, 
> > or he calls the Christians "those who incur Allah's wrath." Who 
> told 
> > you that they are "People of the Book"? They are not the People 
of 
> > the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful 
scientific 
> > books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free 
and 
> > creative thinking. What gives you the right to call them "those 
> who 
> > incur Allah's wrath," or "those who have gone astray," and then 
> come 
> > here and say that your religion commands you to refrain from 
> > offending the beliefs of others?
> > 
> > I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human 
> > being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect 
others' 
> > right to believe in it.
> > 
> > Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic?
> > 
> > Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human 
> > being who does not believe in the supernatural...
> > 
> > Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point 
in 
> > rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the 
> Prophet, 
> > and the Koran...
> > 
> > Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you 
> > don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you 
want, 
> > but other people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they 
> > believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is 
> God, 
> > son of Mary. Let people have their beliefs.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the 
> Holocaust), 
> > and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not 
> with 
> > their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. 
> > Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th 
and 
> > 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, 
scattered 
> > throughout the world, united and won their rights through work 
and 
> > knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a 
> German 
> > restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We 
> have 
> > not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims 
have 
> > turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a 
single 
> > Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an 
> embassy. 
> > Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, 
> > killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not 
yield 
> > any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do 
for 
> > humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > -----------------
> > The Prophet of Islam said:
> > "I was ordered to fight the people until they believe in Allah 
and 
> > His Messenger." 
> > ---
> >  
> > You can't force spirituality on anyone, not even God can do 
that..
> >
>





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